Superchips 6.0 Microtuner Thread
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ok now i am confuzzled
i thought that sct and scmt were the same other than the symantics of the name
so the 1704 and 1704a superchips max are scmt?
what exactly is sct and what should i look for
also then my same question applies can they be custom tuned if i buy used?
is sct the excalibrator? what else?
thanks for everyones help
i thought that sct and scmt were the same other than the symantics of the name
so the 1704 and 1704a superchips max are scmt?
what exactly is sct and what should i look for
also then my same question applies can they be custom tuned if i buy used?
is sct the excalibrator? what else?
thanks for everyones help
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Originally Posted by jasonschwenk
ok now i am confuzzled
i thought that sct and scmt were the same other than the symantics of the name
so the 1704 and 1704a superchips max are scmt?
what exactly is sct and what should i look for
also then my same question applies can they be custom tuned if i buy used?
is sct the excalibrator? what else?
thanks for everyones help
i thought that sct and scmt were the same other than the symantics of the name
so the 1704 and 1704a superchips max are scmt?
what exactly is sct and what should i look for
also then my same question applies can they be custom tuned if i buy used?
is sct the excalibrator? what else?
thanks for everyones help
SCMT (Superchips Inc. 1704, 1704-a, 1706) is by far the larger company and is meant for a stock truck or a truck with basic upgrades.
The SCT xcalibrator tuner (Superchips Custom Tuning, no affiliation with Superchips Inc) is more centered around the custom market.
It pushed the limits a little more, and tuning varies because their independent dealers have the ability to change whatever they want in to tuning.
There is risk and sometimes reward associated with this.
If you want a bigger safety margin and a product designed with very careful testing for safety, reliability and better drivability over months and months, you want the SCMT.
If you want to be a little more experimental and get every little bit of power you can squeeze out, and plan to run nitrous or propane, etc....the SCT product is for you.
Both offer very serious gains and an extended RPM range beyond 4000 RPM.
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so if i were to buy a used xcalibrator how would i get custom tunes that would fit me are they downloadable to the unit from a computer?do i have to send the unit out or will it hookup to a home pc?
now it is all starting to come together!!
now it is all starting to come together!!
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Ok guys I bit the bullet and ordered a SCMT for my '06 6.0L.
I've used Superchips before on a work truck 2004 6.0L and it was GREAT and thats why I went with them agin for my truck.
My question is what kinda EGT numbers are you guys seeing running High Perf. mode around town?
Im asking about an EMPTY truck just a mix of highway and city driving.
How about tow-haul? Economy?
I ask because I wont have a egt gauge installed for a while and I wanted to make sure the EGT's will stay in check running the High Perf. mode daily.
Thx in advance.
I've used Superchips before on a work truck 2004 6.0L and it was GREAT and thats why I went with them agin for my truck.
My question is what kinda EGT numbers are you guys seeing running High Perf. mode around town?
Im asking about an EMPTY truck just a mix of highway and city driving.
How about tow-haul? Economy?
I ask because I wont have a egt gauge installed for a while and I wanted to make sure the EGT's will stay in check running the High Perf. mode daily.
Thx in advance.
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Oh ok so it shouldnt get near dangerous temps just from driving with an unloaded truck huh. Gatta have the piece of mind.
I live in South Florida so luckey for me no hills, just straight roads here. I'll oprobably run it on Tow/Haul mode most of the time because thats the setting where I saw the best fuel milage on the other truck I used it on.
High perf. I'll run mostly on weekends and nigjht were I wanna have a little fun, things like that.
I really like the wway SCMT handles tranny shifts, thats a big reason why I went with them again. Next I need a Turbo-Back and I think Im done....for now
I live in South Florida so luckey for me no hills, just straight roads here. I'll oprobably run it on Tow/Haul mode most of the time because thats the setting where I saw the best fuel milage on the other truck I used it on.
High perf. I'll run mostly on weekends and nigjht were I wanna have a little fun, things like that.
I really like the wway SCMT handles tranny shifts, thats a big reason why I went with them again. Next I need a Turbo-Back and I think Im done....for now
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Really it runs better in High Pef. than in Tow/haul mode??
I would have thought the High Perf mode would be "too" much for daily driving but I guess I'm wrong. I'd like to leave it High Perf. all the time but I was worried it wouldnt be as friendly on the street as Tow/Haul but I know diffrently now.
I would have thought the High Perf mode would be "too" much for daily driving but I guess I'm wrong. I'd like to leave it High Perf. all the time but I was worried it wouldnt be as friendly on the street as Tow/Haul but I know diffrently now.
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I have x monitor and superchip Hi Performance installed. I noticed that the turbo goes up to 30 long before the temperature is high. If I go 0-60 at full throttle that is when the turbo goes up and I have to back off. I am cautious about the turbo overspinning because I have had a lot of turbo problems.
What temperature and boost should I be looking at as the high limit. I have my turbo sensor before the turbo. I set the warning at 1300 degrees and the turbo at 30 lb. The ford mechanic said the turbo should not go over 28 lb.
What temperature and boost should I be looking at as the high limit. I have my turbo sensor before the turbo. I set the warning at 1300 degrees and the turbo at 30 lb. The ford mechanic said the turbo should not go over 28 lb.
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Originally Posted by Duanne
I have x monitor and superchip Hi Performance installed. I noticed that the turbo goes up to 30 long before the temperature is high. If I go 0-60 at full throttle that is when the turbo goes up and I have to back off. I am cautious about the turbo overspinning because I have had a lot of turbo problems.
What temperature and boost should I be looking at as the high limit. I have my turbo sensor before the turbo. I set the warning at 1300 degrees and the turbo at 30 lb. The ford mechanic said the turbo should not go over 28 lb.
What temperature and boost should I be looking at as the high limit. I have my turbo sensor before the turbo. I set the warning at 1300 degrees and the turbo at 30 lb. The ford mechanic said the turbo should not go over 28 lb.
Remember, at any gven load and fueling level, more boost = LOWER egt.
This doesn't simply mean more boost means lower egt "and that's it", because you see boost rise with fueling, load, injection timing, and other factors that affect EGT.
My point is, boost is not the culprit that causes high EGT, it's fuel, injection timing, load, cylinder pressure.
If fueling and injection timing were left the same but boost was closer to stock, you would REALLY see some high EGT's.
It is possible to run less boost but still more cylinder pressure.
An example would be the predator. With their tuning strategy, they run less boost than superchips, HOWEVER, they run more cylinder pressure and without higher boost, EGT's climb higher.
Remember, I'm out of the business now so I have nothing to gain in sharing this, but it's a tested fact.
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Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
32 psi is ok, but don't let it go past that for more than a flash.
Remember, at any gven load and fueling level, more boost = LOWER egt.
This doesn't simply mean more boost means lower egt "and that's it", because you see boost rise with fueling, load, injection timing, and other factors that affect EGT.
My point is, boost is not the culprit that causes high EGT, it's fuel, injection timing, load, cylinder pressure.
If fueling and injection timing were left the same but boost was closer to stock, you would REALLY see some high EGT's.
It is possible to run less boost but still more cylinder pressure.
An example would be the predator. With their tuning strategy, they run less boost than superchips, HOWEVER, they run more cylinder pressure and without higher boost, EGT's climb higher.
Remember, I'm out of the business now so I have nothing to gain in sharing this, but it's a tested fact.
Remember, at any gven load and fueling level, more boost = LOWER egt.
This doesn't simply mean more boost means lower egt "and that's it", because you see boost rise with fueling, load, injection timing, and other factors that affect EGT.
My point is, boost is not the culprit that causes high EGT, it's fuel, injection timing, load, cylinder pressure.
If fueling and injection timing were left the same but boost was closer to stock, you would REALLY see some high EGT's.
It is possible to run less boost but still more cylinder pressure.
An example would be the predator. With their tuning strategy, they run less boost than superchips, HOWEVER, they run more cylinder pressure and without higher boost, EGT's climb higher.
Remember, I'm out of the business now so I have nothing to gain in sharing this, but it's a tested fact.
The 6.0 with VGT is also very easy to OVERBOOST when tuning, also, and doing so not only adds cylinder pressure, but actually costs power and raises EGT by trapping excessive backpressure in the pre-turbo exhaust stream. If you are boosting beyond the amount needed to burn the fuel provided, you are costing yourself power. Even with the hottest tunes available for a 6.0 with stock injectors, anything over 33-34 lbs just isn't needed, and power starts dropping at 35, thanks to a lack of turbo efficiency past that point. Beyond 40 lbs starts choking the engine and the EGT's and cylinder pressures start going up dangerously.
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I just put the Supsrchips on my truck today and WOW!
The truck beast has awaken! She hauls major *** now, huffing and puffing as she goes. The thing I like the most is that the truck feels very normal when driving normally, but when you step on the go pedal then it just flys.
I think a nice turbo-back exhaust would complete the truck..... for now
The truck beast has awaken! She hauls major *** now, huffing and puffing as she goes. The thing I like the most is that the truck feels very normal when driving normally, but when you step on the go pedal then it just flys.
I think a nice turbo-back exhaust would complete the truck..... for now