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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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Thanks for the info Vic, I understand what you are saying about stacking. I know a lot of guys out ther are stacking, but probably not obtaining everything they think they are. I am simply looking for the remapping the SCMT offers, which I assume would help with the drivability. I would use the EDGE for the gauges and maybe a little extra on the low horsepower setting. It isn't worth much to sell! You am guessing you know exactly how the EDGE works? I have never seen boosts even close to 30 pounds. or milage gains like everybody talks and i have tried all the ideas and settings and doing all the long term calculations. Bottom line will this stacking work like I think used PROPERLY. Again not looking for all out tire burning power. I do work this truck and do not want it to become a parts eater warranty or not. THANK YOU for your time and advice.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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For what you are wanting I would reccommend the SCMT all by itself. Lose the EDGE.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerricho
VIC
Thanks for the info Vic, I understand what you are saying about stacking. I know a lot of guys out ther are stacking, but probably not obtaining everything they think they are. I am simply looking for the remapping the SCMT offers, which I assume would help with the drivability. I would use the EDGE for the gauges and maybe a little extra on the low horsepower setting. It isn't worth much to sell! You am guessing you know exactly how the EDGE works? I have never seen boosts even close to 30 pounds. or milage gains like everybody talks and i have tried all the ideas and settings and doing all the long term calculations. Bottom line will this stacking work like I think used PROPERLY. Again not looking for all out tire burning power. I do work this truck and do not want it to become a parts eater warranty or not. THANK YOU for your time and advice.
In short, an inline device is very primitive compared to a tuner.
The inline device can not rewrite logic, it can only "fool" logic.
As a result, boost curves only receive incidental changes, not deliberate changes.
Fueling and injector timing is raised with simple math, not complete remapping, hence the lag during tip in/tip out and excessive smoke on high HP settings.

With an inline device, you are fighting the logic of the PCM at all times, and not getting anywhere near the precise control (and low EGT's and potential fuel mileage) you get with a programmer.

Lets not even get into the shifting!
 

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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
This is not correct.
(see my other posts)
I stand corrected. After looking at the shootout I see the SCMT is ahead of the Edge about 25-30tq until about 2500 rpm where the Edge gains about 60-75tq from 2700 3300rpm.

In HP the SCMT gains about 10hp till about 2500rpm then the Edge gains about 40hp till 3500rpm or so.

So the answer is under full throttle the SCMT does have more power in the lowend. I will say the mapping with the SCMT is conservative which requires you to actually push the pedal father to get the power.

Thanks for correcting me and making me look Vic.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Thanks guys:
I very much appreciate the info, I will go ahead and pick up the SCMT here in the next couple days/ I will only use the EDGE for the info display it offers, A friend talked me into the EDGE a year and half ago and I suspected then I would regret it in the future. Does anybody want to purchase a used EDGE? HA HA.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Question chipped clutcher

Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
This is not correct.
(see my other posts)
Vic,
Any regards or concerns that need to be approached with a SCMT on a 2005 6-speed? ty... even if you have any other recommendations for a tuner that is compatible w/ my setup would be appreciated.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by big ride
Vic,
Any regards or concerns that need to be approached with a SCMT on a 2005 6-speed? ty... even if you have any other recommendations for a tuner that is compatible w/ my setup would be appreciated.
Actually its great with the 6 speed.
It extends the powerband past 4200 RPM and makes tons more part/full throttle power (tastes great, less shifting)
 
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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Talking

Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
Actually its great with the 6 speed.
Thank you for your response Vic_. Any particular part number for the product that I should go after, or perhaps the best place to buy it? Maybe Motorhaven, dunno? Again..... tyvm!
 
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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Thank you for your response Vic_. Any particular part number for the product that I should go after, or perhaps the best place to buy it? Maybe Motorhaven, dunno? Again..... tyvm!
What year is your truck?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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Tuned '05

Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
What year is your truck?
Vic,
My truck is a 2005 PSD, 6-speed, 4x4 manual t/case, super cab, shortbed. 3.73 LS rearend.
(Additional info.....) Tires are 325/60R18E (33x13.50R18E). Stock exhaust is still in place, but planning on new setup once tuner is decided upon. Thank you for your input sir.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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Vic,
My truck is a 2005 PSD, 6-speed, 4x4 manual t/case, super cab, shortbed. 3.73 LS rearend.
(Additional info.....) Tires are 325/60R18E (33x13.50R18E). Stock exhaust is still in place, but planning on new setup once tuner is decided upon. Thank you for your input sir.

You need a 1704-A
 
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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In the parts shop the superchip spec sheet shows the 03-04 getting 50 hp more than the 05, why is that? Is the 05 that much more efficent from the factory.


Also I have a 04 that had its turbo replaced, would they use a different year turbo, would that make a difference with the superchip?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Banshee Ben
In the parts shop the superchip spec sheet shows the 03-04 getting 50 hp more than the 05, why is that? Is the 05 that much more efficent from the factory.


Also I have a 04 that had its turbo replaced, would they use a different year turbo, would that make a difference with the superchip?
No difference.

Use the correct part number for the year truck.

It has to do with the flash strategy.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 01:08 AM
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I totally trust you but am missing the difference on the page


http://www.motorhaven.com/catalog/ca...20_page_1.html

Shows 03 f350 at +150 hp max
the 05 350 at +99 hp at max

I have a 04 I suppose I need the 1704-a
 
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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ugggghhh!

My head is spinning. I've been reading various threads in the this forum and at the Diesel Stop (I had to take away my belt and boot laces after reading too many horror stories over there). I have an '05 F250 CC Fx4 SB that I bought back in March and have just over 11k on the odo. My first diesel and I love it, but, like many others, would like to have a little more power. I'm thinking of a SS turbo back exhaust, MBRP, and the SCMT. I'm not looking to go to the 1/4 mile track just for a little bit more...oomph. My towing is fairly light, 18' center console boat, but sooner or later a horse trailer. Would the above give me what I am looking for? Safely? I know there are no guarantees, but do not want to put on any mods that will greatly increase the chances for problems. I'm a newbie here and greatly appreciate any responses.
 
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