How much is it ? I know what you can buy it for................

 

Some of you misunderstood what I meant by upgrades ... I meant that I called them and asked if any of us who recently bought a 1704 might be able to "upgrade" to the newer model for a special price. They said no, for the reasons I mentioned.

As far as performance upgrades downloadable on the net, I'm astounded that they wouldn't start with the already tried and true (and BETTER) programming already in place on the 1704 series...

I'll stick with my 1704 for now, thank you very much!

Steve

 

Not to step on any toes here since I am new and simply looking for information.......Having said that if you can upgrade the 1805 and download improvements form the site for me not having any tuner now at all it seems like the way to go. The Ford 2006 I have is box stock so anything will help it. As time goes on I feel sure upgrades will be made available from the site for the 06 and I can download them. It just seems like a lot less trouble and time will be saved not having to return it to them to upgrade the tuner.

 

While I don't disagree with that point of view, and wanted to upgrade from the 1704 to the 1805 for that reason alone, the fact is I've already tasted the forbidden fruit of awesome performance! I'm not willing to give it up and pay MORE for LESS performance, even if it means that every once in a blue moon I MIGHT have to send my 1704 back to Superchips for an upgrade.

So far I've had my '05 almost exactly a year, and it's been to the dealer numerous times for mostly regular maintainance with no need for a tuner upgrade. The additional features of the 1805 would be nice to have, but are not enough to justify the added cost of a product that gives me less performance, especially since the price of the 1704 just took(or is likely to take) a nosedive as a result. That means the premium you'll pay for a few more features and LESS performance is even harder to justify.

Now, on the other hand, if Superchips had told me that they'd give me an attractive upgrade price AND promised downloadable performance upgrades in the near future, I might be more interested. Right now I'm extremely happy with my existing product and very disappointed with the company that makes it.

Regards,
Steve

 

I just got a call from someone who told me it will not replace the 1704 as originally planned.
It's most likely going to be a more premium product.

I'l call and get the skinny from the right people.

 

COOL......and thanks

 

Guess I'll be donating my 1704A now...

 

It appears that the 1805 flashpaq for the Ford 6.0 diesel is a mystery here. I would have thought something as new and big as this would have generated some interest!

 

Ok.

Since I used to work there, I called the RIGHT people and got the story.

The 1805 will not replace the 1704-A or 1706, they will remain in production.

The 1805 is simply a premium product, and comes at a more premium price.
The options are different (see sc site for uptions), BUT THE TUNING FILES ARE THE SAME.
There is no extra power to be had by upgrading to an 1805, just the internet updateability and other options.
They have not changed the tuning files Brian and I tweaked before I left.

I don't think anyone should freak out and sell their 1704-A to get the 1805.
However, if you want the options, usb updates, cool case and upcoming goodies, be my guest!

Think of the 1704-A and 1706 as the base model, and the 1805 as the premium model.
Same power, but bells and whistles you'll have to pay for (They tell me it's about $100 more retail, may vary by supplier)

BOTH will remain in production and on the market, so you can choose what you want.

I'll repeat:
The 1704-A and 1706 are NOT obsolete, so if you're happy with it, keep it =o)

If you don't want to drop the coin on the 1805, buy a 1704-A or 1706, it's the SAME power levels, regardless of what anyone may tell you.

 

Well thats good news!
I dident car much for online capabilities and things like that when I was buying a tuner, I just wanted something I could plug in once and enjoy the power. Nice and simple.

Vic one question I had that is of a slightly diffrent subject is do you know what SCMT is gonna come out with a tuner for the 2005 24v Cummins?
Im asking for a friend who traded his Ford for a Ram and he really liked the SCMT on his Ford so he wants another for his Ram but they dont make one for the 24v Cummins.

Any info on this? Thx

 

Thanks for getting to the source, Vic/Jim! I'm surprised that the sales rep I talked to wouldn't know such basic information such as whether the tunes were the same or different ... seems like "no-brainer" must-have info to me...

...Now if only they would throw their existing customers a bone and offer a reasonable upgrade path to those of us who recently purchased a 1704.

Regards,
Steve

 

The 1805 is simply a premium product, and comes at a more premium price.
The options are different (see sc site for uptions), BUT THE TUNING FILES ARE THE SAME.
There is no extra power to be had by upgrading to an 1805, just the internet updateability and other options.
They have not changed the tuning files Brian and I tweaked before I left.

I don't think anyone should freak out and sell their 1704-A to get the 1805.
However, if you want the options, usb updates, cool case and upcoming goodies, be my guest!

I appreciate the information. The 1805 came along at the right time for me as I do not have a tuner for my 2006 truck at all and was in the market. 385 shipped for me was not a bad price either. Also the ability to get updates online seems like a neat idea since others are already doing that! Merry Christmas to all.......Now mine will be with the new tuner............

 

The 03-04 and 04.5-06 Cummins was my last project at Superchips before I left.

You are going to CRAP when it comes out!

The power is just absurd, LOL.

Hopefully, they haven't toned down my fun.

With tuning alone, Stock trucks were making 925 FT lbs and over 440 RWHP on the superflow , which characteristically reads lower than dynojets.

The Cummins is BY FAR, the torquiest, most upgradeable diesel available in a light truck. IT just takes to tuning like candy and laughs at the dynos dual eddy currents where even tuned strokes were bogging.

It's just incredible, the potential of the cummins.

 

Very often (anywhere), the sales staff knows what they are told to know and thats it.

I hear ya on the upgrade but there are many sides to that.

My friends got an 04 Audi and I just ordered an 06 Audi S-line, which costs just a little more but is much more car.
He has the same payment, but an older car with less power and less bells/whistles. It doesn't mean it isn't still a nice ride!
I can see him talking to the dealer: "But no fair, I want to upgrade".

Everything good always gets better, and thats just the nature of R&D.
These guys, no matter how great a product is, are in it to make a profit.
They generally make the best product they can with the technology they have. (Except in the PC industry, where they perpetually upgrade a little at a time, but just enough to keep our wallets empty =)

Human nature always discounts something old when a new thing comes out.
(I'm as guilty as anyone)
We all just want the best, biggest and baddest of everything, don't we =o)

 

DAYUM! Sick *** numbers man! Im sure my buddy will be real excited to hear about this, do you by any chance have an idea of when it's planned to be released?