anxious to see what you think about the 6.0 intake set up.

Good thing is there is a plethora of 6.0 and 6.4 intakes available from all the blown engines on top of wrecked/junked trucks

 

@FordTruckNoob I cut it back a bit and after some acidic sodium solution, the copper looks good. May might not be in the best shape but the measured resistance and flexibility of the line is fine for the time being. Starter and neg lines are good.



From left to right: 8 gauge, 1/0, 6, 2/0, 2. On the driver side is also 2 pos 1/0 neg.

Grabbing the 6.0 intake didn't work out today. Might be for the best though as a 6.4 intake turned up and I'd prefer making that work if possible since it's much easier to chage the filter on it.

 

You sure you aren't a mechanic by trade?

Your attention to detail and thoroughness is very high.

Good on you for taking the time to clean the cables, inspect and test their resistance. Many simply cut the end and crimp on a new terminal. Granted this is an acceptable practice in most cases, but some it is not.

I have not looked into acquiring an 6.0/6.4 air box yet, but little bits of information like the 6.4 is easier to change the filter is good to have in my pocket.

Thank you for documenting your every move.

 

Haha I played with Legos a lot when I was young if that counts! Nah I just am good at finding the information I need to to accomplish the things I want to do.

Unfortunately the 6.4 intake is too tall to fit.





Too bad because it allows access to the power steering pump and the filter goes in through the lid on the top.




You could *maybe* do it like this, but you might not be able to fit the battery, and even if you do, you'll have to remove it to change the filter. Plus the intake location isn't ideal.

Seems like 6.0 filter is the only other option for those who want a stock system and more flow than the AIS.

 

I simply dont get why the s&b isn't an option. They flow great, I have 2 with dry filters and they flow great. Sure te AIS is a bit quieter, but towing heavy in demanding conditions it simply does not flow enough, even with the fender mod. The s&b has a bit more turbo whistle noise, but it isnt obnoxious, and they fit pretty well.

 

I wouldn't be keen on it mostly because of the high cost, but also because the filter isnt as efficient compared to the blue powercore filters (99.37 vs 99.97), nor will it be as efficient as long since it can't hold as much dust.

The 6.0 intake should be suitable as it was specced for a 325 HP engine and works at higher power levels for many 6.0 drivers. I can get filters easily from several different manufacturers, they filter better than any aftermarket setup, and it's dirt it's cheap by comparison.

 

It filters fine
It does not fill up fast or clog. I hate the filter sock, it causes more issue.
I live on gravel/dirt roads, dust is so bad windshield wipers are used more for dust then rain. I will literally stop for a min or 2 if I am following a big truck sometimes just so dust can settle and I can see out past my front bumper. No issues. The dry filters can be blown out now and then to extend the life. I actually didnt see any filter change interval with the s&b vs ais. The s&b will flow better throughout its entire life.
Do you operate the truck in an extreme dust evironment like me?

 

I can't say that I have the real world experience that you do. I'm glad you've a workable solution that fits your needs.

Perhaps there isn't a real world advantage to that ~.6% filtration advantage. But I definitely would rather spend ~50 dollars than 330.

 

Are you going to pursue the 6.0L filter housing now and toss the 6.4L housing idea out?

Do you have any thoughts or plans for the space behind the driver side battery where the OEM airbox sat?

 

I dont think the tiny difference in filtration is ever going cause a difference in any way.
Cheap is def a nice thing, especially if the time to wait or play with ideas is available. In my case though, it is generally cheaper to save time vs to save $. Time is more valuable then money and I have neither

 

I think the 7.3 ais and 6.0 filter really shine with dirt holding ability which extends service intervals

 

So I messed with the 6.4 box a little more and chopped off the little mounting posts on the bottom. This gives me enough room to close the hood, but it's still too tight for my liking and not something I think is worth pursuing. Plus the outlet of the filter would have to make a very hard 90 degree turn to clear the brake/hydro boost stuff.

If I was proficient in CAD, machining, 3D printing, etc, I'd design a filter box around the 6.4 filter such that the filter lays on its side, right behind the front of the engine bay with a short snorkel, and the battery located right behind it. But alas...

I got ahold of the 6.0 filter and, while it's not ideal in many ways, it can work (as seen in other threads). The biggest issue is the angle of the outlet being so acute. This requires the filter be located far back, covering the power steering and almost butting against the brake/hydro boost stuff. Also requires a bracket be fabricated, and the filter is a pain to change compared to any other option.

I might mess with it again at some point, but for now I'll stick with the AIS. I have stock E99 injectors anyway so I doubt I'll be pushing it too far past its limit.

 

I’ve only towed once with the AIS but it performed very well for me. There’s videos out there of the trip. I don’t push it as hard as Eric, have a lighter tow, and have stock AD injectors.

I was under the hood yesterday and checked the filter minder. My recent local driving hadn’t pulled it at all, but I also have been running with a fairly light foot.

The main thing I would watch with the AIS is oil pull from the CCV (mine is to atmosphere right now) and EGT. My EGT was fine but I only tow a 6,500# enclosed car trailer and it was cold that day.

I’ve actually been second guessing the fender sleeve hole lately. It absolutely allows less restriction during a WOT drag race style run in a hot tune. That was proven with the data. What I don’t know is if the ram air effect (no sleeve) during high speed cruising (emphasis on cruising part throttle) would actually work to a benefit in that situation. I towed previous without the fender sleeve. Life has gotten in the way this year and prevented any race trips but hopefully I can get out there soon.

Throw the AIS on there and get this thing fired up! I’m ready to hear it rattle and see the joy from all your hard work.

Sous mentions being able to pull the entire intake system out easily with the 6637 style and CSD intake.
You can do something similar with the AIS setup. I was able to loosen the turbo clamp, remove the 2 CCV sleeve bolts, unlatch the AIS lid, and pull the entire thing out as a set yesterday.

 

PriusLover, thank you for taking the time to look into these out if the ordinary modifications for us. Between your efforts and cjfarm11, there is a decent amount of detail there for anyone to learn from.

Jason, I remember being able to remove the AIS quickly when I had one. It is definitely a very nice piece. In order for me to remove my filter I remove the OBS 6637 filter clamp, then the clamp on the tube to the filter and it comes out.

If I want to remove the entire intake, I remove the large filter clamp bolt and the turbo inlet clamp and it all comes out as one piece.

Once I get the air bag mounts sorted, I may be on the hunt for a 6.0L intake just to mess around with. Undecided at this point. Since I don't utilize the OEM CCV bracket, any intake I utilize will need to be massaged to fit correctly.

Be that AIS, 6.0L or S&B... Maybe I'll leave well enough alone and use the 6637 as I have already proven to myself it works very well.

Keep up the great work PriusLover, we are all hopeful for outstanding results.

 

Just to throw my two cents in for the air filter discussion. I've run the AIS, 6637, and currently and S&B. My favorite has been the S&B. With the AIS, after 10-15k miles on the filter, I could pull the filter minder almost all the way on a daily tune. Hot tune would pull it all the way pretty easily. My current S&B filter looks pretty dirty after 20k miles, but I checked my compressor wheel a couple days ago and it still looks fine. Don't currently have the filter minder hooked up with the S&B but might do it in the future. Also, I never had an issue with the 6637, I just preferred the S&B because it's enclosed and it pulls air from the stock locations.

Unless the S&B starts looking like this in the next few thousand miles, I'm gonna stick with the S&B. Also, been a while since I've posted anything on here. Feels good to be back.