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Old Jul 12, 2021 | 01:05 AM
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So those splices aren't stock? Must have been a PO modification.

I'd like to hear it fire up too but a succession of issues seem to be delaying that from happening. Here's the latest:





The trimmed 45 degree boot idea that @ESwift and @RacinJasonWV doesn't seem to be working here. No idea why. Perhaps the Irate mount has the turbo in a slightly different position?



This wire shows the ideal path. Seems like a 90 degree and a 45? I'm not sure if I should try and get some pipe bends welded up or if using angled boots would still suffice.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2021 | 08:41 AM
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It requires a twist of the CCV tube bracket. Use a crescent wrench to twist it just enough to line up.



 
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Old Jul 12, 2021 | 08:20 PM
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Ah I see. I must have missed that part when looking things over.

I did some mock ups and I think I can make it work without bending the bracket by using a 90° aluminum elbow and 45 degree boot. To me that'd yield a better flow in to the turbo since the air is not coming at the intake at an angle.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2021 | 08:47 PM
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Loving the continuous improvement philosophy I’m seeing here.

But I do feel it might be splitting hairs in the airflow category. I believe it will end up being irrelevant in the real world. That’s what makes things great though, testing and trying new things. Everyone has their own way to solve the problems. It’s fun to watch.

I look forward to seeing what you come up with.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2021 | 08:59 PM
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Popped a few photos for you for reference.







 
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Old Jul 13, 2021 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PriusLover
Ah I see. I must have missed that part when looking things over.

I did some mock ups and I think I can make it work without bending the bracket by using a 90° aluminum elbow and 45 degree boot. To me that'd yield a better flow in to the turbo since the air is not coming at the intake at an angle.
@PriusLover , do you have to have that factory transition piece that bolts to the bracket? If not, get rid of it and create a much straighter tube from the airbox to the turbo. This will also give you more room to position the hot side CAC tube away from the back of the alternator.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2021 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
@PriusLover , do you have to have that factory transition piece that bolts to the bracket?
No emperical data to support this but my left over physics knowledge tells me the hood in there serves a function wrt flow characteristics and/or regulating the amount gasses admitted in to the tube, and that it'd be ideal to retain it if I can. It would have cost Intl/Ford less to just have a hole, but they spent the money on extra plastic and mold complexity to make it.

In other news, got my Chinesium wire crimper, ancor lugs, military terminals... Need to get a few more supplies tomorrow but should be able to get the alternator lug fixed and the passenger side terminals done. I'm going to wait on the driver's side because if I change to a 6.0 or 6.4 intake, I'll have to relocate the battery and will need to lengthen the connectors.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2021 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PriusLover
No emperical data to support this but my left over physics knowledge tells me the hood in there serves a function wrt flow characteristics and/or regulating the amount gasses admitted in to the tube, and that it'd be ideal to retain it if I can. It would have cost Intl/Ford less to just have a hole, but they spent the money on extra plastic and mold complexity to make it.
Understood. FWIW I have a simple side tube in my intake for the CCV that is flush on the inside. I have not seen any higher oil consumption than before.

That stub held in the vice is the CCV tube.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2021 | 07:32 AM
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We just finished a 5,500 mile cross country trip towing our 5th wheel. From GA to IL to ID to MN and back to GA. I have the CSD intake pipe with the CCV port and the OEM air box boot mated to that.

I saw no more oil consumption than I have on other long distance towing trips, as a matter of fact, the oil consumption was a bit less this time. Although, I was running Truax Fleet Supreme 15w40 instead of Rotella T6 5w40. We have towed the 5th wheel 1000's of miles since 2018 with no observed or noted changes in oil consumption since going T4 versus the Garrett GTP38 MST.

Y2KW57 mentioned a while back that he sees less oil consumption with a 15w40 as well, but I am not an engineer or smart enough to know why this may be the case.

In my humble opinion, the shape of the CCV inlet into the intake tube if the turbo has little to no effect on the flow of the CCV or the oil vapor. I really like the clean look and easy assembly/disassembly of my intake tube.

But, I am interested in the 6.0L barrel intake too.

You have to follow your gut, and we are enjoying you including us in your journey.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2021 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PriusLover
I'm going to wait on the driver's side because if I change to a 6.0 or 6.4 intake, I'll have to relocate the battery and will need to lengthen the connectors.
what would be the benefit of going to a 6.0 or 6.4 intake? Isn't it all just piping with ccv ports?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2021 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Khan
what would be the benefit of going to a 6.0 or 6.4 intake? Isn't it all just piping with ccv ports?
This post: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post19961138

Led some of us to this thread: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-on-7-3-a.html

Curiosity and PMS runs strong through the blood stream of an FTE'r at times....
 
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Old Jul 14, 2021 | 05:14 PM
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Basically, given that the rated HP for the 7.3 vs the 6.0, and the filter size/airbox design of the AIS vs the 6.0 filter, it seems all but certain that the 6.0 filter flows more per given restriction.

So to those who've upped the HP of their engine, and want to want to stick with high efficiency Powercore filters and the reliability of a stock enclosed airbox, it'd probably be the best option. Also has the perk of being cheap to do and not necessitating a battery-to-frame relocation.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 01:19 AM
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Just found out that oil in the ICP sensor means it's failing.



So will have to swing by the dealer tomorrow and pick one up. Replaced all the HP oil plug o-rings on the top of the heads while I'm at it.

Repainted and rewrapped the now hammered downpipe. Should be able to get it on tomorrow.

Started replacing the battery terminals but found that the lug sizes specified in another FTE thread didn't fit at all. So will have to get the correct ones (will be sure to document the ones I used).

Existing terminals look rather nasty:



Found someone parting out a 6.0 who is willing to sell the air intake and the associated battery tray/brackets. Will it up tomorrow and see how it all fits.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PriusLover

Started replacing the battery terminals but found that the lug sizes specified in another FTE thread didn't fit at all. So will have to get the correct ones (will be sure to document the ones I used).

Existing terminals look rather nasty:


Oof. I think those cables are beyond a simple terminal replacement at this point. I too resisted buying new cables and attempted to fix the terminals. It became an ongoing maintenance task with electrical gremlins popping up every 6 months or so. I eventually bit the bullet and bought this. The result:

You are making excellent progress.
 
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Luckily my main battery cables were in good shape. I doubled up on the copper though and made life easier for the voltage and amperage to do what it does.

Really looking forward to what you come up with for the 6.0L intake. Between you and @cjfarm11, I might be inspired to go this route myself.
 
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