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Old Mar 13, 2020 | 10:49 PM
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One trick I recall for the pump removal is to loosen one of the bolts, but l leave it there and remove together as the pump is loosen up.
The other bolts are easy.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2020 | 11:01 PM
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Come on guys, you’re killing me. I don’t need to know how to change the pump, I did that already this morning...and I don’t have the stock lines or fitting in the pump, I have the braided hoses and straight fitting in the pump. I know how to change the pump. I am asking if anyone has had a Ford pulley that is narrower than the belt by 1/8” and also about 1/8” closer to the engine side than the rest of the pulleys causing a misalignment of about 1/4-5/16”. The pulley install tools bottom out when they are fully seated, you can’t press the pump on the shaft further than it should be. I should have taken pictures, I didn’t think it was worth the trouble but I will take some in the morning, it might help some other poor soul searching for “Ford pulley narrower than belt”.
I’m going to take this POS to NAPA tomorrow after I remove the whole unit and take my other good pump and the OE pulley.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2020 | 11:05 PM
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That read a little like I was being rude, not at all the case! I have to remember you guys are used to troubleshooting stock parts and you might forget all the details of my build. Sorry about that and thanks for replying and trying to help. I got my front bumper on and didn’t duck low enough under the bucket of my tractor and split my wig on the corner of the bucket. I saw stars and thought I was going down! Too bad I quit drinking because this would have been a whiskey night! Haha
 
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Old Mar 13, 2020 | 11:14 PM
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When I changed mine I got a Ford reman from Ed and swapped my pulley over.

The odd size pulley on your NAPA reman could be one of two things.
The supplier screwed up and put the wrong one on.
The person that turned it in has done something odd that needed the smaller pulley.
Then NAPA supplier did not check to make sure it was the correct one.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2020 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SmackDaddy
That read a little like I was being rude, not at all the case! I have to remember you guys are used to troubleshooting stock parts and you might forget all the details of my build. Sorry about that and thanks for replying and trying to help. I got my front bumper on and didn’t duck low enough under the bucket of my tractor and split my wig on the corner of the bucket. I saw stars and thought I was going down! Too bad I quit drinking because this would have been a whiskey night! Haha

Sounds like an ice bag or a bag frozen peas night.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2020 | 11:30 PM
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It’s my fault for not comparing them but even if I did and the pulleys were the same width it would still be 1/8” too far in.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 07:06 AM
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As I said, it’s a rebuilder issue. Other Ford platforms use different width pulleys and pulleys, that can have different setbacks. The rebuilder installed the wrong pulley.

Somewhere in the forum is a good discussion about the steps on installing and removing a pump and pulley.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SmackDaddy
Come on guys, you’re killing me. I don’t need to know how to change the pump, I did that already this morning...and I don’t have the stock lines or fitting in the pump, I have the braided hoses and straight fitting in the pump. I know how to change the pump. I am asking if anyone has had a Ford pulley that is narrower than the belt by 1/8” and also about 1/8” closer to the engine side than the rest of the pulleys causing a misalignment of about 1/4-5/16”. The pulley install tools bottom out when they are fully seated, you can’t press the pump on the shaft further than it should be. I should have taken pictures, I didn’t think it was worth the trouble but I will take some in the morning, it might help some other poor soul searching for “Ford pulley narrower than belt”.
I’m going to take this POS to NAPA tomorrow after I remove the whole unit and take my other good pump and the OE pulley.
Well...you obviously have never changed the pulley on a mounted pump or you would know there's room without pulling the radiators, Mr Smarty Man.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SmackDaddy
That read a little like I was being rude, not at all the case! I have to remember you guys are used to troubleshooting stock parts and you might forget all the details of my build. Sorry about that and thanks for replying and trying to help. I got my front bumper on and didn’t duck low enough under the bucket of my tractor and split my wig on the corner of the bucket. I saw stars and thought I was going down! Too bad I quit drinking because this would have been a whiskey night! Haha
Apology accepted. I think that whack on the noggin was the universe's way of telling you to chill out, though it would have only served to enrage me. I have to go break something after a hit like that.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 07:38 AM
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I don't ever recall a posting about the pulley being off, but I think most just install the old one.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ring-pump.html

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ine-issue.html


 
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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 09:30 AM
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Question to ceep clean the system (and beware the pump to fail): where can I place a filter in the system?
 
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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 10:05 AM
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There are two ways of doing it. Some install the filter in the hydro-boost discharge hose, the one on the fender side in the back with the hose clamp on it. There only is flow through that hose when you are releasing the brake pedal, and it's the small amount of fluid that was captured within the hydro-boost mechanism. To me, that's a waste of time. One can argue all they want, you'd have to apply the brakes like a test procedure to get a good proportion of filtering.

The second method is to place it in the return line from the cooler to the reservoir, which is the full-flow pathway. The problem with that is you do have to keep more of a schedule to make sure you don't overwhelm the filter. The Ford procedure calls for installing a filter there temporarily after repairing a failed system, not keeping it there long term.

 
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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 10:41 AM
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Already swapped the pulleys. I know how, that was not the question. Anyway, they had the same Ford part number but different last letter on the 4 digit code.

The one with the blue tamper mark is the wrong one from Napa. Just FYI later, note the number code differences.








 
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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 11:05 AM
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"they had the same Ford part number but different last letter on the 4 digit code. "

Yeah, that's not the same part number then. The same year, and it's a pulley, it ends there. That 4th digit represents the platform level, ie F-150, Superduty, Escape, etc.

What was installed was a 6 groove pulley, the Powerstrokes take an 8 groove pulley.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 03:48 PM
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Thanks, Jack. I need to take a look at where to put that filter in.

SmackDaddy: how do you pull the pulley off? Is there a way to pull it off right inside the hub?
Pulling on the outside diameter would not be good.
 
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