Gas vs PSD
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When I refer to highway-I'm not screwing around at 50mph milking all of the fuel economy possible out of it-I set the cruise between 70 and 75 mph and go.Same as when it was stock. I don't alter my driving to fabricate data.
JL
JL
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Slightly off topic, but has anyone noticed that none of the new vehicles get anywhere near the sticker MPG ?
I mean, 20% less would be acceptable, but I keep hearing people getting closer to half.
They should either start a new testing procedure, or i dunno, but its BS.
I mean, 20% less would be acceptable, but I keep hearing people getting closer to half.
They should either start a new testing procedure, or i dunno, but its BS.
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Why would they do that? To trick people into buying a newer vehicle, when their old one might actually get the same or better mileage?
We bought a chev equinox and it gets 22 MPG highway on a good day.
Had we known, we would have just bought a truck instead of this POS "35 MPG +" that is at the dealership once a month for major repairs.
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Our old (13 years) diesel clunker will make 40+ mpg if I set CC at 55 mph on the highways.
Since most of our trips are over 500 miles, driving like that would take very long day, so I am satisfy averaging 28 mph making the trip in less than 8 hr and still be able to have some time for other things at the end of driving.
Than this is the story our family carry for couple of generations already, that all imports usually make more mpg than listed, while all US brands make way below listed.
For example Mercedes E320cdi is listed 37 mpg highway and this is what I recorded in real life on deserted freeway. Fill up proved the readout to be within 3% accuracy.
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What BS, that gets me so mad.
I'll never buy another vehicle again without test driving it for a while and hand calculating the mileage.
Friggin con artists. all they want is everyone to buy a new vehicle every 2 years.
I'll never buy another vehicle again without test driving it for a while and hand calculating the mileage.
Friggin con artists. all they want is everyone to buy a new vehicle every 2 years.
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or instead arguing on Ford Forum you can surf the net for car reviews. That would answer your question without test driving. 
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The first is price of regular, the second ULSD. European diesel is still consider couple grades above its US counterpart
Germany 1.54 vs 1.34
Austria 1.40 vs 1.32
France 1.55 vs 1.34
another question is what is the route the profits go into government pockets?
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Is that price per liter?
Never-mind, I did a search. All prices are in liters. Prices need to be multiplied by 3.79 to get price per US gallon. I know the times I have rented a car over in the UK I found the price of gas out to lunch. Very expensive driving over there.
Never-mind, I did a search. All prices are in liters. Prices need to be multiplied by 3.79 to get price per US gallon. I know the times I have rented a car over in the UK I found the price of gas out to lunch. Very expensive driving over there.
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Don't forget, if we want to start arguing about fuel costs, north America is supposed to be getting mandated changes to gasoline, as I believe a minimum 10% ethanol.
When this happens, Expect gasoline vehicles to start dropping MPG big time.
When this happens, Expect gasoline vehicles to start dropping MPG big time.
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But, I will stop crying, LOL
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Yall I drive 55 mph on highways. No I'm not trying to save fuel. I done the same thing w/ my f150s. My 05 weighted 7200 and my SD weighs 8k lbs. These things don't even slow down anywhere near in a hurry moreless stop. Moreover it my be correct to say they gain speed faster than the lose lol. People in the world don't care and pullout or cut in front of us all the time. Being st the top of the weight scale is pretty bad news for them. An 8k lb truck doing 55 mph has whopping KE and momentium a 3000 lb car doesn't have a chance. The way these trucks sits its no safer jumping out of the intruders way. You can find yourself rolled over. These things has the momentium of a fullback but not the foot work of a tailback. Tie in the figures for a trailer and it just blows my mind. I'll let yall lead. Yall can catch all the knuckleheads.
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I know it can't..... (in stock form)
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As a reference back to our earlier disagreement about higher RPMs always = lower economy, this is a perfect example. When the car was stock, it would turn just under 2000 RPMs with the 27" tall tires,and a 3.27 axle. Now, with the identical same tires, and a 4.30 axle, it turns just under 2700 RPMs.
That's an increase of 700 RPM's and absolutely NO loss of low-load economy.
JL