Are you guys still talking about mustangs that run 12's? You know my honda runs 12's. My old CRX ran a 12.89 NA.

 

I am about to change my 1996 Bronco 5.8 from a 3.55 to a 4.10 and I'll bet it really wakes it up. Stock tires, slush-o-matic but with a Transgo Tugger shift kit.

 

You think you have it figured out huh?
Too bad I didn't consult with you before I starting building this car.
I wouldn't have wasted my money on the Kooks headers, the ported heads, the intake manifolds(stock plastic PI, ported Bullitt), the underdrive pullies, the hand build mandrel bent exhaust, the converter, the gears, the cams,etc,etc.
I've been wasting my time......No, wait-I was busy winning racing events with the car by taking out "beercan with wheels" Mustangs.
JL

 

Beer cans with wheels don't count.
JL

 

Brother, welcome to FTE. Don't have diesel envy. I don't know how often you pull your 31'er. If its like everybody else and only a couple times a year and that's all you pull you in my opinion have the right truck. You said you will never get the money put into it back at resale. I think if your already thinking about saleing the truck you need to just stop rigjt where your at and sale it and get what you want cause everything else will just add to the misery.
Your right that engine is not a diesel so don't work it like its a diesel. Use your accelarator pedal to keep your momentuim. I don't know what your truck is so I'm going to say your grossing at least 16k and prolly more like 18k. I wouldn't agrue if you came back and said you grossed 20k. Point being is that 6.8l doesn't have the turbo to keep the tq/ cyclinder pressure or the low end tq range like the diesel so you'll have to turn up the rpms to get in the powerband.
My diesel is the 1st I've everhad. I came to love it for its lower rpm power. Others don't share that w/ me. However your truck will pull that load up that hill with no problem. Once you learn how to work it it'll come 2nd nature to it and I bet you'll love it. If I'm wrong and you just grow to hate it I bet its just the higher rpm powerband. I don't know why I like the lower rpms it really doesn't matter where the range is "as long as the engine is able to use it" the 6.8 can use it.

 

Will if this is what yall are calling power adders then yall are loseing this arguement very fast. Let me go ahead and kill. The 3v 300 horse 4.6s that came about since 05.is n/a and isn't on the juice. Ford like I've suggested did some head work used smaller drive pulleys (I haven't proved that 1 yet). I don't know how much the plastic intake did for them but it did add power. I've even mentioned yet going with bigger injectors, throttlebodys, throttlebody spacers, or aftermarket airfilters like airraid or kn systems.
The 07 stock was a mid 14 second car. It came w/ 3:55 gears. I've shaved 2 seconds off it w/ just a tune and gearset. Heck the gearset might have done it. No poweradders yet. Now yall fueled my fire. I'll prolly with my plan of throttlebody spacer and an airraid induction kit. Hmmm still no power adders. Wonder if I'll get another 1/2 second off my time?

 

Dude, the nickel and dime horsepower gains provided by the products you listed aren't considered power adders by anyone who actually builds engines, or races. You've made it obvious that you don't know any people like that. FUEL ON!!

 

The 07 is faster than mid 14s stock...

 

Rofl, agreed. Power adder = Nitrous/Turbo/Supercharger. Someone considering a throttle body spacer and air intake a power adder... wow... And what is up with all these throttle body spacers anyway? How about buying a bigger throttle body that is matched to the opening in your intake and the tubing from a properly selected CAI instead of some mickey mouse spacer?

As for the guy with the CRX running 12.89, how much money/time did it take to get it there? I got my old 91 5.0 to mid 12s on the spray for under $1k and I could drive that daily, pass emissions and would not hesitate to take it on a long road trip. I never understood drag racing a FWD 4 banger but do respect what they are capable of. I just know a RWD V8 will do it for less especially when we are talking 12s. Once you start trying to go sub 10 seconds it is kind of a wash...

I am curious at to what the aftermarket is like for the V10 vs the PSD though. I have not really ever looked into the V10 aftermarket but I know the Diesel aftermarket is gynormous.

 

No its not. Mt and r&t both got 13.5s out of the 07 cobra. The gt a good second slower.
Aight big boys nickle and dime power. How yall figure Ford added what 85 hp? To the 4.6l.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19360639/Pic...0530-00157.jpg
Anybody see a blower? I don't but then again I don't know what I'm talking about.
Beercan mustangs? Brang it johnny. At our dragstrip there's seceral 10 secong mustangs n/a. Your braley beating stock mustangs. So if that's all your raceing aight then good for you. There's even 8 second mustangs here. Of course their running blowers. That's a very short bucket your standing on. All that work and still just under 12 seconds. Yea I'm clueless.

 

I call anything that adds power as a power adder. I listed throttle body and injectors and "throttlebody spacers", and Cai boxes. Throttlebody spacers is good for 8-10 hp. The bolt ons add up. Its my point larger throttle body larger injectors and headers to get the 4.6l to 300 hp along w/ heads and intake. Where's your 12 second car? Without even knowing it yall are making my point. A 12 second car isn't hard to build.

 

Btw that engine pictured is a factor 315 horse engine. Ford found away to get 100 hp out of it w/ out power adders I guess100 hpis chump change to yall heavy hitters.

 

That is a huge picture, I can't read anything.

 

The crx was pretty much all stock besides the intake.

 

It's true-you just can't fix stupid. And someone here is showing the entire world how stupid they are.
I'm done with this ignorant crap.
JL