Originally Posted by p-nut

1. I can believe it because PSD owners spout garbage about gas trucks all day long and have no clue as to what they are talking about 90% of the time, just like the second part of your statement. Uneducated and just pointless. You must understand that when the 7.3 was in production, the V10 accounted for a very small portion of superduty production. Just finding one was and still is a rare occurance since ford has pushed diesel sales since the get-go. When my 6.0 barfed its last engine and I was finally rid of it, I jumped on the only V10 option I could find at the time.

2. My truck is approaching 200k and its no where near being ready to be replaced. That 100k theory is left over from the '40s and '50s when engines in cars weren't filtered as much as cars today. They ran dirty and contributed to engines failing in under 100k. The thought that at 100k miles that ANY properly maintained gas engine is no where close to being worn out. I've seen 4.6L engines with over 450k that still have cross hatch marks in the cylinders. If you think that at 100k your psd is just broken in, you're dead wrong.

3. The question is, have YOU? Most diesel owners have NEVER owned a properly equipped gas engined super duty. Some have driven V10s with the garbage 3.73 gear ratio just to be disappointed with it. I've owned both, and really I can be honest that the diesel can tow heavier loads easier but will cost you more in the end. Now, with my gas engined truck having the appropriate gearing, I'm sure I could pull the same load with no problem and just as well as the diesel could. Most PSD/gas owners won't pull 16k anyway.

4. You failed to mention the other downsides. The high cost of fuel and the greatly inflated buy in price of a PSD.

I'm sorry, I just hate diesels. Mine spent more time on the side of the road than getting me where I needed to go. Ford has ruined that for me and I'll never go back no matter what the manufacturer. (unless the f-350 gets cummins power then its on.)

Originally Posted by jkidd_39

I don't know how you can believe this statement. There are so many more 7.3s in the field working hard everyday with tons of miles. Not very many v10s in the same situation.

Heck. Just look at it this way. You say you got 100k miles on your v10 people tend to think it's time for a new truck. A psd has 100k on it and it's just broken in.

Have you ever worked a psd vs a v10? What kind of load? If you are pulling over 16k gross the psd makes life easier. Under 16k is personal preference IMHO.

The downsides of psds is the cost of maintenance.

Originally Posted by jkidd_39

Hmmm. I am a diesel guy thru and thru. What kinda life span are these v10s seeing? As a constant work rig??

Originally Posted by jkidd_39

Heck. Just look at it this way. You say you got 100k miles on your v10 people tend to think it's time for a new truck. A psd has 100k on it and it's just broken in.

Originally Posted by jkidd_39

If you are pulling over 16k gross the psd makes life easier. Under 16k is personal preference IMHO.

Originally Posted by jkidd_39

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Originally Posted by jkidd_39

The 6.0 is certainly not a good example of a good diesel. If had too many flaws from the factory. I hope your happy with your v10. All my experiences with them were certainly not impressive. What kind of mileage are you seeing with 4.88s. My 6.4 has them and my mileage is crappy.

And for further reference I'm just having a conversation with you. You seem aggressive and rude. I'm not attacking you by any means. So enjoy your v10

Originally Posted by bill11012

My NA 7.3 has the most torque of any Ford used at 335 FT lbs. It makes less torque at every RPM than the same year 460.

Originally Posted by Kajtek1

I keep my opinion that V10 owners post here seeking excuse for their poor decision. Fact that they have to make up the numbers to even have the excuses speaks for itself.

Originally Posted by parkland

At 1500- 2500 RPM's where it will be used without shifting all over?

Originally Posted by bill11012

And what numbers do you think we are making up?

Yes, from idle all the way to redline the V10 and 460 make more power and torque at any rpm. Why is it a bad thing for an engine to have a wider rpm range?

Originally Posted by rollerstud98

Hey peanut, diesel isn't more expensive everywhere, here it is running right about $.12 a liter less then regular gasoline. All your posts are just as ignorant as the diesel guys saying gas sucks. It's your preference since you had a bad experience it sounds like, I love my 6.0 and wouldn't trade it for anything yet, although it is getting old and I would like a newer truck eventually, I will probably go with a 6.4, why, because I like the smell of the exhaust and the sound of the motor. I only put on roughly 700 km's a week, but I would never buy a V10 truck, just my preference.

Originally Posted by Super08

This has been my position all along. If you are working your truck hard and racking up oodles of miles a diesel makes sense. If you are an average joe that only occasionally tows, the gas makes more sense in my opinion. But it still boils down to what each of us likes and needs. No matter how hard a person tries you will not convince a person of one thing when they like something which is the opposite.

Originally Posted by exiled

I'm buying this man a beer.

Originally Posted by Kajtek1

Old argument, so let's try to compare again.
The 7.3 liters in clean trucks with less than 100k on them sell now for about the price they cost new.
How much is worth 10 years old V10 with 100k on it comparing to original MSRP?