Gas vs PSD
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,256
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From: Garden Valley, Idaho
Myself, I had 8 injectors (150cc swamps) and the glowplugs replaced by a neighbor for $1500.00 cash. $800.00 for a turbo. As for the EBPV, most guys throw them away when doing a turbo swap. Many of us either do the work ourselves, or have a reasonably priced neighbor do it for us.
OK, so I get my son-in-law to change out my spark plugs for nothing, cost is $400 for all the parts. If you don't rebuild your EBPV then you either have to plug it or get an non-EBPV pedastal for $3-400, but you don't just "throw it away", it don't work that way. Face it, the maintenance and replacement parts for a diesel are horific. Gassers rule, especially v-10's.
Hotshot
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 13,484
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From: Stevens Point, WI
Its all in good fun, some just get a little tighty when you pick on their motor. 
I had a gas truck and loved the truck, just hated watching the gas gauge plummet to the left and no pulling power. Now I can hold a rock solid 70mph in OD with the cruise on while pulling a train of trailers up a hill all while getting 14.5mpg MINIMUM!
I had a gas truck and loved the truck, just hated watching the gas gauge plummet to the left and no pulling power. Now I can hold a rock solid 70mph in OD with the cruise on while pulling a train of trailers up a hill all while getting 14.5mpg MINIMUM!
Hotshot
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 13,484
Likes: 42
From: Stevens Point, WI
Its all in good fun, some just get a little tighty when you pick on their motor.
I had a gas truck and loved the truck, just hated watching the gas gauge plummet to the left and no pulling power. Now I can hold a rock solid 70mph in OD with the cruise on while pulling a train of trailers up a hill all while getting 14.5mpg MINIMUM!
I had a gas truck and loved the truck, just hated watching the gas gauge plummet to the left and no pulling power. Now I can hold a rock solid 70mph in OD with the cruise on while pulling a train of trailers up a hill all while getting 14.5mpg MINIMUM!
Posting Guru
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,537
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From: Dongola, IL
OK, so I get my son-in-law to change out my spark plugs for nothing, cost is $400 for all the parts. If you don't rebuild your EBPV then you either have to plug it or get an non-EBPV pedastal for $3-400, but you don't just "throw it away", it don't work that way. Face it, the maintenance and replacement parts for a diesel are horific. Gassers rule, especially v-10's.
Cargo Master
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,624
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From: OR and UT
Battery (2 for diesel)
Battery cables
Clutch assy.
Alternator(s)
Fuel filters
However, if you have to tow A LOT of weight for MANY miles, those expensive parts are just the cost of business. Personally, I don't need a diesel, but I can understand those who need them and love them.
V10 win for me, though.
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 42,562
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From: Long Island USA
That sounds like one of those "I used to WALK 5 miles to school in 3 feet of snow, uphill both ways!"
But yeah, the rhetoric is a little overheated at some points.
The worst are those that were bitten by 2003-2004 6.0's and never looked back. However, there is some confusion (if you can call it that) when people pick on the 7.3's.
Of course, there is the occasional HPOP line popping off leaving you stranded, or a bunch of other "no go" situations even with the 7.3 that leave me happy to have a gasser in comparison. I might not get there as fast, or I might spend more $'s in fuel, but at least I can say I got there.
Just for grins, I ran through the first page of the 7.3 forum just now. I found one guy who is happy he made 300K with "only a few failures". https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1056200-300k.html
The list is as follows:
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Cargo Master
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: Bend Oregon
Just for grins, I ran through the first page of the 7.3 forum just now. I found one guy who is happy he made 300K with "only a few failures". https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1056200-300k.html
The list is as follows:
1.HPOP
2.Torque converter
3.Flexplate
4.2 rocker arms
5. 2 push rods
6. 1 lifter
7. Turbo
8. Injectors
9. IDM(replacing tomorrow)
Not to pick on anyone for their choice, but... the rhetoric is pretty thick on both sides
I recently hit the 300,000 mark and am proud of how good the ol girl is still doing. Only a few failures.
1.HPOP
2.Torque converter
3.Flexplate
4.2 rocker arms
5. 2 push rods
6. 1 lifter
7. Turbo
8. Injectors
9. IDM(replacing tomorrow)
She's taken some abuse in her life.
1.HPOP
2.Torque converter
3.Flexplate
4.2 rocker arms
5. 2 push rods
6. 1 lifter
7. Turbo
8. Injectors
9. IDM(replacing tomorrow)
She's taken some abuse in her life.
not to mention he modded his IDM, has a lift and 35" tires as well as the "death to your turbo" K&N filter all juiced up with a superchips tuner that are known to be brutal to the tranny/flexplate/torque converter.
I have over 300K and the only PS related failures I have had are 1 CPS, 2 water pumps and an alternator.
Hotshot
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 13,484
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From: Stevens Point, WI
Completely stock but it is a 2wd. When I pulled the train the first time and my truck back from IN. with the OD off I got 11-12mpg. After reading on here and people suggesting just leave OD on I got 14.5 the first trip camping and 14.6 the second time.
So yeah 5 miles uphill both ways in the worst snow storm of the year every day.
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Modular motor junkie
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 6,190
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From: Texas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdXMenMipUk
Give it two years and the van that I showed the link to will be over that mileage.
Lead Driver
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,093
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From: San Diego, CA
I get about 16mpg highway and around 11-12 city. Overall I get around 13-14mpg average (I live in SoCal). I was getting 15mpg overall until I bought my mud tires.
I've got 206K and so far I've had to replace:
1. Ball joints (not specific to diesel)
2. ESOF seals (not specific to diesel)
3. Various o-rings (a few dollars in parts, lots of time in the garage and "several" beers)
4. Water pump (200K for an OEM water pump is good in my book for any engine)
5. Starter (OEM lasted 190K)
I won't make it across the finish line first or beat you up the hill, but I'll make it there every time for 500K miles.
Both engines make great power, I just prefer mine to be around 1600 rpm.
I've got 206K and so far I've had to replace:
1. Ball joints (not specific to diesel)
2. ESOF seals (not specific to diesel)
3. Various o-rings (a few dollars in parts, lots of time in the garage and "several" beers)
4. Water pump (200K for an OEM water pump is good in my book for any engine)
5. Starter (OEM lasted 190K)
I won't make it across the finish line first or beat you up the hill, but I'll make it there every time for 500K miles.
Both engines make great power, I just prefer mine to be around 1600 rpm.
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: Jul 2002
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From: Long Island USA
By 1600, it's pretty darn close to 90% of peak.
