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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by lakedweller
PSD's ROCK !!!!!!!
They also rock the roll back, the dealership service department, your wallet when repairs are needed and most recently your bank account at the pump.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 12:10 AM
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I know with the V-10 I'm never gonna have to flash the computer and change my high volume oil pump, also my injectors are gonna out live the psd one's and my egr ain't gonna burn antifreeze. But I gotta admit the diesel pulls like a crazy bitch!
 
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 03:22 AM
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so what one would win a dragrace? the psd 7.3 or the v10?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 07:59 AM
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If it is the three valve V10, I would put my money on it. That is with both being stock. I know the 05 I had was PDQ. With the 6.0 and the 6.4 it would get the jump off of the line but would lose by the end of the quarter mile IMHO. I owned all 4 btw
 
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Snowseeker
What is the reason out of all the aluminum head out there being used now day only ford had a problem with the V10 head? Is it just less threads then normal like people are talking about?
We have had a guy in the V10 forum, captchas, he was a VW tech for decades it seems. He said that anyone who says only Ford had problems with plugs in aluminum heads has their heads up their butt.

VW, Audi, ANY manufacturer that doesn't use a steel insert in the head HAS PLUGS get loose and are ejected.

The thing is, they actually seem to do it sooner, and under warranty, so no one ever goes on the web and complains that their plug let loose at just a few miles past warranty and Ford won't do anything

If you look at the Timesert website, they offer kits to fix Chevy, Ford, BMW, Toyota, Honda, Land Rover, Volkswagen, and Harley Davidson motorcycle plug holes. And those are only the ones that need a special insert. They have plenty of generic inserts that fit all the rest of the manufacturers.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 08:48 AM
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Oh yes I will agree that they all have some problems. Personally I have had to drill, vacuum, and rethread aluminum heads because of seized plugs in dodge, honda, and toyota heads. But it seems I see more problems with the ford heads then any other. Thats why I was curious if ford used a different aluminum grade for their heads then the others or if something else was going on.

My 89 F250 with a 300I6 all iron used to loosen up the rear plug all the time. Every oil change I would have to grab the socket and tighten it back up.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by p-nut
They also rock the roll back, the dealership service department, your wallet when repairs are needed and most recently your bank account at the pump.
My rollback doesn't rock to much when hauling PSD's, thanks to the 900 pounds extra carrying capacity I got by ordering the V10.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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Hey is that my truck on the back.

I guess not, It just that I have seen my 6.0 on the back of a tow truck TOO many times.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by b-uno
so what one would win a dragrace? the psd 7.3 or the v10?
2V and 3V v10 would win. I'm not going to say rpms won't have any play in it cause honestly I don't know. That's a tricky subject. I'm not quoting numbers its just a ballpark for an explanation. You have some v10ers argue that even the 2v makes 80 of its tq @ 2k. Well that's fine and that's 80%
Of 350 lbs then has to make the other 20% over what another 2k. The 7.3 has 100% right under 2k. That's 450lbs. Your still looking at 150+ ftlbs difference here.
The gas win cause just the nature of the beast. The diesels power its greatly dependent on the turbo. The drive train has to get wound up to get down the road quickly. Its not designed to do that. What the diesels design is to move weight. Its makes its power low to get the load moving. This is done in a manner to not wear out your drive train. I don't care what anybody says if you have to rev up to get your load moving your going to break and wear stuff out.
I have my lunch eaten all the time by SDs w/ 5.4s. Number wise this shouldn't happen. In our "stock" psds we stomp the throttle and its as if the truck replies "hmmm who me" then you here/feel the turbo come alive and then its an angry ox shoulders down trying to get somewhere as if a snake just bit him on the butt.
Gas burners don't have this delay or dependence on boost. So its gone that the hit of the throttle minus if you will if there is any driver error. Wheel spin tail fishing etc etc.
Now when you get into the modded drag diesels here's a different story. But yet I just don't see you grossing next to 20k very often towing w/ these trucks w/ always working on them.
There's nothing wrong with the v10 engine. I don't know why Ford dropped it. If I didn't work my truck like I do that's prolly what I would have. Now I'm not saying that the v10 can't pull what my psd can or isn't rated to do it or any that stuff. I'm saying day in day out rain or shine, flat ground to straight up hill the psd is better suited. The numbers themselves shows that.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by donovan
I guess not, It just that I have seen my 6.0 on the back of a tow truck TOO many times.
Been there, done that when I had an 05 f450 6.0 wrecker. It was towed more times than I care to admit!
 
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by b-uno
so what one would win a dragrace? the psd 7.3 or the v10?
The V-10 would take me to school, bring me home and then help me with my homework!

Take it from a guy who's about as bone stock (am I the only one left?) as it gets. I have mud tires and an aftermarket cone air intake filter but after that it's either original equipment or OEM replacement. I still have the original exhaust from the factory and I'm running the original fuel injectors (206K and still going) and no tunes. Okay, maybe I've got an aftermarket valve body, but it's only to firm up the shifts!

My truck may be slow, but at least it's loud and smells!
 
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
I haven't heard of ANY plug blowouts after a DIY change that involved checking the threads for preexisting damage and correct torque WITH lubrication (anti-seize). Of course, someone will now dig up a report that contradicts that statement
Unfortunately 2 of mine blew out after the originals were changed and the procedure was followed. Still the best and most powerful gas engine Ford has had! Now a Roush supercharger would make it even better!
 
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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today is easter, a day of miracles, so if a v10 could outpull a psd, today would be that day!
 
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MitchPeters
Unfortunately 2 of mine blew Now a Roush supercharger would make it even better!
probably shoot the Spark plugs clean through the hood
 
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PorchFarms
today is easter, a day of miracles, so if a v10 could outpull a psd, today would be that day!
I like your quote!!!!!
 
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