Gas vs PSD
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I've went by 3 Ford lots this week browsing around and out of about 80 new SD's I saw zero v10's, one 5.4 and the rest were PSD.
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Here the 5.4 is the most common in a work truck, most of the PSDs don't do much work. You would not believe how many are used as comuter cars.
I have seen 7 V10s running around town, 1 was in a 99 ( I think, might have been a little newer) F450 roll back and I don't think any of the others were used for much.
2 did not even have a hitch.
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Of course he is going to tow 5.4's and v10's less than he tows 7.3's. The 7.3 has been around a lot longer than the 5.4 or v10, 90% of all f-250's-up came with a powerstroke, the 7.3 also came in International trucks and the majority of 7.3's are waaaaay past 200k miles.
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It was in an article I read a while back. I can't remember what it was from, but I'm sure someone on here has some production numbers somewhere. They were talking about the powerstroke and how important it was to Ford because over 90% of all 3/4 tons and above came with it since it was offered. Around here you almost never see an OBS or SD with anything other than the PSD.
I've went by 3 Ford lots this week browsing around and out of about 80 new SD's I saw zero v10's, one 5.4 and the rest were PSD.
I've went by 3 Ford lots this week browsing around and out of about 80 new SD's I saw zero v10's, one 5.4 and the rest were PSD.
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Probably 80% of the E250-350 vans are 5.4 though, and about 10% each for PSD and V10. Not many vans get towed for engine problems here. That said I did tow my V10 F450 to a shop yesterday, just because it's easier to tow for me than to get a ride home (it was still driving fine, but check eng. light was on). A $35 oxygen sensor is all it needed, it runs perfect again.
). At least not around here. The vans here are used for floral delivery, school athletic departments, meals on wheels, etc. Nothing that I would classify as heavy duty or a hard life. Don't get me wrong, I have a 5.4 and a 7.3 and love both of them, but mine lead two totally different lives and I wouldn't be the slightest bit disappointed if my 7.3 sees a wrecker before my 5.4 does. My 7.3 is a 97 model and has 212k hard miles on it and runs like brand new. My 5.4 is a 2000 model, has 35k miles and has been babied. Not being driven as much and not being driven hard makes it easier to not be towed.
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Thats exactly what i was thinking... get that thing out there and stretch its legs... the 5.4 doesn't like hibernating either.
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You answered the question for me.....because it's a 5.4. I got tired of 3rd gear and 3500 rpms to go up hills with an empty trailer. It gets worse mpg's unloaded than my 7.3 gets pulling 10k lbs. So I just use it as a weekend driver or grocery getter.
I got tired of 3rd gear and 3500 rpms to go up hills with an empty trailer. It gets worse mpg's unloaded than my 7.3 gets pulling 10k lbs. So I just use it as a weekend driver or grocery getter.
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I can under stand that.
I have driven a 5.4 with an empty trailer, auto and 3.73s. Its really kind of sad that they gave it a SD badge.lol
It pulls nothing like the V10, hard to believe the V10 is just a 5.4 with 2 more cylinders.
I have driven a 5.4 with an empty trailer, auto and 3.73s. Its really kind of sad that they gave it a SD badge.lol
It pulls nothing like the V10, hard to believe the V10 is just a 5.4 with 2 more cylinders.
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Your V10 has 35 HP less than my '07 5.4 did! We did this one already!
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Thats 137 MPH, You take the limiter off?
Thats fast for a truck!
The land speed record for a stock truck is only 25 MPH faster than that.
Wonder how long it would take you to stop from that speed...
Yes, a stock 6.0 will out pull and out run me, you have 325HP and my early V10 is making 265. Go race an 05-10 V10 and you will get a rude suprise.
Thats fast for a truck!
The land speed record for a stock truck is only 25 MPH faster than that.
Wonder how long it would take you to stop from that speed...
Yes, a stock 6.0 will out pull and out run me, you have 325HP and my early V10 is making 265. Go race an 05-10 V10 and you will get a rude suprise.
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My 5.4 has the same peak hp as Bill's v10, but he has more low end and mid range torque than I do, so he has more hp across about 90% of the rpm range. People generally only look at peak hp and argue that my 5.4 will pull right with Bill in evenly matched trucks.