Gas vs PSD
Fleet Mechanic
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From: Garden Valley, Idaho
Lets see a list of what he has done to that engine, like number of injectors and HPOP's not to mention the number of EPB valves replaced, glow plugs, CPS replacements, ad nasium. For that kind of money I could replace a V-10 short block every 200k and still be money ahead. No matter how you shake it, the V-10 will alsways come out ahead on longivity due to the low maintenance costs and low replacement costs, not to mention lower fuel costs, lower oil/fuel filter changes; you name it and the V-10 beats a diesel in almost every category.
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From: iowa
Lets see a list of what he has done to that engine, like number of injectors and HPOP's not to mention the number of EPB valves replaced, glow plugs, CPS replacements, ad nasium. For that kind of money I could replace a V-10 short block every 200k and still be money ahead. No matter how you shake it, the V-10 will alsways come out ahead on longivity due to the low maintenance costs and low replacement costs, not to mention lower fuel costs, lower oil/fuel filter changes; you name it and the V-10 beats a diesel in almost every category.
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Thanks I needed a good laugh.
NOT including injectors and other sensor you would need to replace a V10 replacment engine runs $3600. so your claiming you could replace 7 of them in the same time that one went on the base long block? Thats $25,200 NOT including labor to swap motors.
Nice try tho and thanks again for helping with my health, cause they claim a good belly laugh a day helps you stay healthy.
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While extreme examples of what a particular engine has done are fun to see, they really don't give much of an indication of what can be expected from the average engine. So, I'm curious. What does everyone seriously consider the expected life of each of the engines to be? How many miles for the V10, and how many for the 7.3, 6.0, or 6.4? And just for fun, what about the 5.4?
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Modular motor junkie
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From: Texas
If you can read and follow basic steps, they will NEVER blow out.
Your right about the coils. They are $45 each with a lifetime warrenty from BWD and all of mine got changed the last plug swap. The Motorcrafts never last past 10 years/200K it seams.
Yea, the 11.99 stud kit is really going to break the bank...
And at over 190,000 miles mine are the factory studs still.
While extreme examples of what a particular engine has done are fun to see, they really don't give much of an indication of what can be expected from the average engine. So, I'm curious. What does everyone seriously consider the expected life of each of the engines to be? How many miles for the V10, and how many for the 7.3, 6.0, or 6.4? And just for fun, what about the 5.4?
I don't know about the 6.4 but every other engine you named has gone over that mileage many times.
The 5.4, V10 and 4.6 are all the same just so you know.
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Sep 2007
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From: Garden Valley, Idaho
Thanks I needed a good laugh.
NOT including injectors and other sensor you would need to replace a V10 replacment engine runs $3600. so your claiming you could replace 7 of them in the same time that one went on the base long block? Thats $25,200 NOT including labor to swap motors.
Nice try tho and thanks again for helping with my health, cause they claim a good belly laugh a day helps you stay healthy.
Wrong Bozo, $2,499, FORD F250 F350 F-SERIES 6.8 LITER V10 ENGINE 2000-2001 - eBay (item 290550400339 end time Apr-04-11 14:57:52 PDT)
About the same price as rebuilt injectors and a new HPOP for a 7.3, probaly higher than that. Haven't priced them in a while. A new EBPV valve and new turbo every 100,000 miles or less will run another $1500 at least not to mention a new set of glow plugs @ $800; and that doesn't include a short block for a 7.3 @ $6,000. Yeah, go ahead and laugh cause for sure YOUR 7.3 ain't gonna make no 1 million miles.
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From: Blue Hill Township
They only spit plugs when you install them wrong.
If you can read and follow basic steps, they will NEVER blow out.
Your right about the coils. They are $45 each with a lifetime warrenty from BWD and all of mine got changed the last plug swap. The Motorcrafts never last past 10 years/200K it seams.
Yea, the 11.99 stud kit is really going to break the bank...
And at over 190,000 miles mine are the factory studs still.
If you can read and follow basic steps, they will NEVER blow out.
Your right about the coils. They are $45 each with a lifetime warrenty from BWD and all of mine got changed the last plug swap. The Motorcrafts never last past 10 years/200K it seams.
Yea, the 11.99 stud kit is really going to break the bank...
And at over 190,000 miles mine are the factory studs still.
The parts for the exhaust studs are not expensive but it certainly can be labor intensive to replace them. It just plain sucks to do. Been there, done that with both the exhaust studs and with the plug blow-outs.
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Modular motor junkie
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From: Texas
I don't think name calling is really necessary.
This is a fun topic but it won't be fun if it turns into name calling and fighting.
This is a fun topic but it won't be fun if it turns into name calling and fighting.
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Modular motor junkie
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From: Texas
If you have dealt with plug blow outs, its becuase it was put in wrong.
It may have been by the factory, a shop, the dealer or you but somebody messed it up. Its not hard, but you do have to follow a few basic steps.
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Modular motor junkie
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From: Texas
How much torque did you set them at?
So you saying the cylinder pressure is causing plugs to blow out? If that is the case I don't see why the end would be crushed. I also don't see why there are so many guys running nos and blowers without any trouble.
So you saying the cylinder pressure is causing plugs to blow out? If that is the case I don't see why the end would be crushed. I also don't see why there are so many guys running nos and blowers without any trouble.
Cargo Master
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From: OR and UT
I hope I misunderstood that, because it is impossible for cylinder pressure to close plug gap.