It will be fun, however, blowing past him as he's climbing some of the hills in Upstate NY getting to his property in the Catskills

 

And, as long as his CPS doesn't crap out on the way

 

LOL bunch of kids. I don't have a 6.0 so I don't have to worry about my engine going south. And I don't care why you or any other gasser bought their trucks. I mean I know some people need that engine to go get groceries so its all good. Once you guys do some heavy hauling or towing you will wish you got a diesel. Oh by the way how is that getting 300 miles to a tank? That is what I get on a half a tank. But yeah gas is cheaper.

 

Actually, I have to say on a serious note that I have seen a lot of immature posts from both sides, not just one or the other. It is sort of laughable how this thread has gone. There are gonna be some ill feelings and bad blood when a thread that had such potential has pretty much turned into a trash tab- Jerry Springer thread with everything short of the inbred freak show and twenty-something girls showing their hoo-hoos for plastic "Jerry beads". If this thread was condensed into actual, factual comments only, it would probably lose 440+ pages. Both sides have made some valid points, but for the most part, especially recently, it has sort of become an embarrassment. We are all better than to resort to name calling and short cracks. Wading through this thread is sort of like sitting at the kid's table at Thanksgiving dinner with no adult supervision and where they served pudding, pies, and anything else that can easily become airborne. Don't get me wrong, it is funny to experience, but in the end I feel like I need a shower. Such a shame to see so many otherwise respectable and respectful pillars of the community resort to childish behavior. I understand that each and every one of us is passionate about our rides, but when the message is delivered in an immature manor, the message- regardless of how intelligent it may be, becomes dulled and falls upon deaf ears. There are much better ways to state the facts than to pick at one another. Such a shame, like I said, this thread had so much potential but no longer deserves to be on a technical discussion forum, rather would be more at home next to the candy bars and bubble gum at the check out lanes of the local supermarket. End of rant.

 

EXACTLY!

Finally admitted it.

 

I'd rep you, but can't so soon

 

What that I don't care. I know I made the mistake at getting a gas engine in a super duty and I learn. I guess you guys aren't that bright.

 

Pretty much the title of the thread was going to lead to all the entertainment but I think some people should NOT view threads like this so seriously. It's not a "I need help to fix my truck" thread so all the BS is fun and games IMO.

Im sorry but I literally laughed when people started saying a 5.4 can tow as good as a PSD. I have a diesel and will NEVER buy any gas engine in a full size truck bigger than a 1500 but face it, all this technical/ rocket science/ WTF data is pointless in the real world. The say a 5.4 f150 can tow 10k easily but EVERYONE knows a 150 with that much weight is sketchy. They way i see it, the v10 was designed for the person that tows once in awhile but mostly drives the truck to work, short distances and turns the thing on a and off constantly. A gas engine built to better accommodate the truck own weight. Yes it can tow but Better than a PSD, I don't think so. And everyone knows about 98% of diesel owners bought there truck which is 100% overkill for what they do day to day. I will admit it, i am part of that group but coming from a truck driving family, diesel is the only way to go for me.

 

In limited situations, it can, but did I say "limited" ? yes I did.

 

Limited as in from the time it takes the PSD driver to move his foot from the brake to DIESEL pedal haha

 

ROFL!!!

 

Yet you don't own one...You should be forced to change your sig...

 

Finally, someone gets it. The V10 is for someone who tows once in a while and doesn't drive very far otherwise. It won't tow as easily as a PSD, it won't get as good of mpg either, but it can do it when called upon to do so. Yes I would have liked the 6.4, but I just wasn't willing to cough up the cash, not with my starving 401k and a new baby at home.

Yes, most PSD owners bought that engine as overkill, which is fine. If they want to do that it is fine. Take Jac08 for instance, he has even more power from his 6.4, which is probably WAY overkill. But if he wants to do that, it's fine with me. I have no right to say he wasted his money or made a bad decision, it's his money and his truck and he can do whatever he wants with it; all I can do is say I wouldn't have gone that path. Personally I didn't even know that engine was capably of so much power with just a tune, he showed me other wise. I'm not into tuning the engine, so it really doesn't effect me or my purchase though, still interesting.

BTW: I towed a 10k trailer with an F150, it was a supercab, long bed, with a 5.4L and 4.10 rear end (high payload package). It was okay, definitely was not good on the hills though, but I also had a 4 speed tranny. It definitely wasn't the ideal setup. My friend has the 3V 4.6L with the 6 speed and a 3.55 rear end and would have blown my 5.4L out of the water empty.

 

You also said the ANY OTHER GT would be an easy target, didn't you? You seem to like to modify your posts once you sober up. If you're running mid 13's (which you are not, I promise) then you should have no problem beating pretty much ANY stock GT. Street racing against someone for half a block is what idiots do. The offer still stands: come on out here, pick up one of your loud-mouth buddies along the way and we'll see who's got the goods when it comes to real drag racing. Just think of all the glory! You could be showing pictures and videos to all your diesel buddies about how you whipped a gas-burning Mustang! You'll be legendary! I will even back up your story completely as well! Wouldn't that be worth the drive?

 

Yes... fun... lol

Anyway, I've been one maintaining that diesels are better at towing and will get better mpg. The only reason I didn't get one is because the price was to much for as little as I will actually use the engine in those applications.

Contrary to what others have said, I think the PSD will pull up a hill faster than the V10, it's just the V10 can probably do at the speed limit, so I don't really need to go much faster. Like I said, if I towed more often I would have gotten the PSD, hands down.

the only problem I have with your above comment is that the PSD rides better? The suspension and steering are the same with all the engines. The only difference is that the PSD is heavier and hence has a little stiffer springs in the front. But extra nose weight won't make it handle or ride better, but rather handle worse (although the super duty is like a barge so it won't matter). But the rear springs are the same regardless of your engine. I'm sure I have the same rear springs as you (I think you have a F250 anyway). SO I don't see how the engine makes any difference in the ride quality... but I'm open to other to tell me why.