Gas vs PSD
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From: Melissa TX
Why is it you can never read? I said my cousin(not any of his friends), my neighbor(not some guy he used to know that may have had a 6.0) and people that worked with me(not someone that some guy that used to work with me was friends with his cousin). These are all people I know directly and have ridden in their trucks and been with them when they stopped for fuel. How much better can I know them than that?
I don't live in Texas do I? The prices there mean nothing to me. Just like Vail Pass. I don't live there, so how a truck performs there means nothing to me either. But using your prices that comes out to $747.82 for the 6.0 and $795.87 for my 5.4. So you would save about $48 per oil change interval. Change the oil and we are pretty much even again.
I don't live in Texas do I? The prices there mean nothing to me. Just like Vail Pass. I don't live there, so how a truck performs there means nothing to me either. But using your prices that comes out to $747.82 for the 6.0 and $795.87 for my 5.4. So you would save about $48 per oil change interval. Change the oil and we are pretty much even again.
And I guess you don't change your oil? So is that how you supposely break even cause not once have you change your oil?
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He never said it would - IN ALL CASES.
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Yeah I can read and what I read was that none of those are your trucks and they are your cousins neighbors. Sounds like a third party to me so yeah its like a friends cousin neighbor type of story. You said you don't believe that other guy who actually drives a 6.0. What makes us believe what you are saying who doesn't even own one. You are going off of another guy who lives next to your cousin and not even you.
And I guess you don't change your oil? So is that how you supposely break even cause not once have you change your oil?
And I guess you don't change your oil? So is that how you supposely break even cause not once have you change your oil?
I change my oil, but a 6.0 oil change costs more than mine.
Edit- I just checked Advance auto and the 6.0 oil filter is $19.90. Throw in 15 quarts of oil at $2.20 per quart and that is $52.90 for an oil change. My 5.4 is $25 for the entire oil change. So where I live my 5.4 is about $20 cheaper than the 6.0 and where you live the 6.0 is about $20 cheaper than my 5.4.
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From: Colorado Springs
My cousin, next door neighbor and all the service trucks that came to our job sites got between 10-15 mpg's. I trust them more than I trust you. Let's use your numbers though. If a 6.0 gets 18 mpg's and my 5.4 gets 15 mpg's then our total fuel cost for 5,000 miles would be 5,000/18=278 gallons x $2.99 per gallon=$831.22 for the 6.0 and 5,000/15=333 gallons x $2.48 per gallon=$825.84 for my 5.4. You save $6 in fuel per oil change interval(but quickly throw it away and more when you change your oil). So sorry man, I don't care what your mpg's are, when you pay more per gallon it evens out. That's just the truth LOL.
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No BS there, that is what it ran with the Barometric pressure @ 32.2 and about 50 degrees. I've never been to the track with the pressure so high, but that will act like you have a couple more pounds of boost. Optimal times come with optimal air conditions.
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I would pretty much say there is no case that a well running stock 5.4 would outpull a well running stock 6.0, even a fully loaded dually crew cab 6.0 and reg cab sb 5.4.
Now I have never driven a 5.4 but I owned a Chevy 6.0 in the 1500 hd, and even programmed with a cold air intake is not close to my stock psd
I know the chevy 6.0 is a different truck, but it was 300/360 stock (340/400 if u believe claims on the programmer and intake ) and the 5.4 is 300/365. So while not exact, they are close.
Now I have never driven a 5.4 but I owned a Chevy 6.0 in the 1500 hd, and even programmed with a cold air intake is not close to my stock psd
I know the chevy 6.0 is a different truck, but it was 300/360 stock (340/400 if u believe claims on the programmer and intake ) and the 5.4 is 300/365. So while not exact, they are close.
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We were comparing mpg's and I was saying that it was just as cheap for me to drive my 5.4 as it is for someone to drive a 6.0 and that just because it gets better mpg's doesn't mean it costs less to drive. Then you replied with the part about there being no way my 5.4 would outpull or get better mpgs than a 6.0. I was only arguing the fact that even though I get worse fuel mileage it doesn't matter because my fuel costs less.
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From: Spokane, WA
We were comparing mpg's and I was saying that it was just as cheap for me to drive my 5.4 as it is for someone to drive a 6.0 and that just because it gets better mpg's doesn't mean it costs less to drive. Then you replied with the part about there being no way my 5.4 would outpull or get better mpgs than a 6.0. I was only arguing the fact that even though I get worse fuel mileage it doesn't matter because my fuel costs less.
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His 5.4 has a 5 speed and 4.10s. It can out pull almost all PSDs and V10s of the same age that are handicapped with slushboxes and 3.73s.
He never said that a 5.4 with the same crap trany/gears could beat them, or that he could outpull a well geared V10.
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Your not getting the point of his posts.
His 5.4 has a 5 speed and 4.10s. It can out pull almost all PSDs and V10s of the same age that are handicapped with slushboxes and 3.73s.
He never said that a 5.4 with the same crap trany/gears could beat them, or that he could outpull a well geared V10.
His 5.4 has a 5 speed and 4.10s. It can out pull almost all PSDs and V10s of the same age that are handicapped with slushboxes and 3.73s.
He never said that a 5.4 with the same crap trany/gears could beat them, or that he could outpull a well geared V10.
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Your not getting the point of his posts.
His 5.4 has a 5 speed and 4.10s. It can out pull almost all PSDs and V10s of the same age that are handicapped with slushboxes and 3.73s.
He never said that a 5.4 with the same crap trany/gears could beat them, or that he could outpull a well geared V10.
His 5.4 has a 5 speed and 4.10s. It can out pull almost all PSDs and V10s of the same age that are handicapped with slushboxes and 3.73s.
He never said that a 5.4 with the same crap trany/gears could beat them, or that he could outpull a well geared V10.
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I've had both of them on scales when I buy gravel. The super duty weighs, 500, ehh almost 600 lbs more, but my F150 was a supercab and the super duty is a crew cab. A regular cab 4x2 should be weigh close to what my old F150 weighed. At that weight and with more gears in the tranny, there is no reason he should not be able to at least match my mpg.
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From: WV
Yeah I can read and what I read was that none of those are your trucks and they are your cousins neighbors. Sounds like a third party to me so yeah its like a friends cousin neighbor type of story. You said you don't believe that other guy who actually drives a 6.0. What makes us believe what you are saying who doesn't even own one. You are going off of another guy who lives next to your cousin and not even you.
And I guess you don't change your oil? So is that how you supposely break even cause not once have you change your oil?
And I guess you don't change your oil? So is that how you supposely break even cause not once have you change your oil?
I love how you claim we don't read, yet after 2 posts you still don't get that he talking about multiple people.
It's just one of those people is his cousin, another one of those people is his neighbor, ect.
Apparently the comment about V10 owners not being able to read, should be fixed to super duty owners... Or perhaps no one here can type
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If you are refering to the test we did my truck is NOT a 3V. It's a 2V with the older 4R100 transmission. Compare it to the 7.3 in that test since they are from the same era with the same transmission and gearing.