No one will ever agree to what is fair or what isn't fair and in my opinion what is fair would vary depending on what the test is.

 

LMAO change your sig man it would make more sense.

 

Yeah it is a big difference. I haven't run the calculation, but would imagine it is about 10 truck lengths (not truck and trailer) at that speed.

 

I agree. I'm out of here. I'm sure the PSD guys will say something to the effect of "that V10 owner could hang with a PSD..." or something stupid like that.

But the truth is that my truck works fine for I do with it, and they can't handle the fact that a gas engine can actually work in a superduty. Maybe someone is just tring to justify their purchase by bashing everyone else who didn't make the same exact choices they did

 

I think a lot of this has to do with your definition of "outpull". My definition is which rig gets from point a to point b the most comfortably, at the speed limit. Your definition seems to be which one wins the race to the top of the hill.

Using your definition, you'll outpull me every single time. You've already admitted that you go significantly faster than the speed limit, so you'll win, hands down, no argument. In fact, you may even win using my definition as well because you may be comfortable putting the throttle on the floor to maintain speed. I am not comfortable doing that and I am hard pressed to think of a single time I have EVER done that to my 6.0.

My point is that (and this point has been argued by others many times in this thread) this topic is so subjective that there is no way to crown a specific engine the "King of the Pickup". Any choice is a good choice if that's what the owner wants.

The immature, fight to the death, ridiculous arguing that has been demonstrated by a couple of psd owners has driven this thread into the john. It's time for me to unsubscribe, not that I've ever added anything of value or that anyone cares. Y'all enjoy reading the ridiculous rants. I'll be out enjoying my truck and shaking the hands of other Ford owners I see at the truck stops, regardless of what engine is under their hood.

 

I have no problem with you, and I'm pretty sure Jac08 doesn't either...It's the ones who start bashing us first because we bought PSD's that get annoying. I couldn't care less what engine people have in their truck. Apparently, people seem to care about mine though.

 

Don't forget your V10 brethren like Sand-Man, dkf, and several others who enter on a daily basis and begin with a personal attack.

P.S. You can unsubscribe all you want, but this thread is like crack...You'll be back. Hell, I'm unsubscribed.

 

Haha...if you say so!

Nah, his F150 doesn't like my trailer.

This thread may have gotten a bit ridiculous, but it's done that a few times before. I still enjoy it because I LOVE a good debate. It gets better when the other side of the debate resorts to childish irrationality.

Let them talk their trash and insist that their trucks are the only trucks on the road. Most of us know better!

 

It's ok...I probably did the same thing in 3rd grade, but with marbles or some other useless object.

You defend the V10 so they don't pick on you, but if someone questions your motive, you flip around and say "I own a 6.4 PSD". It's all good. You just haven't found your way and want to "fit in" really bad. You're seeking your own identity, and there's nothing wrong with it as long as you're not wearing the baggy pants, gold chains, crooked hat, and listening to gangsta' rap because you're "so thuggeryish".

 

You have not particularly bashed me, and I'm fine with your comments. Others have, and that doesn't even bother me that much. It's just that it has turned into a complete bash fest. I may check in once in a while to see if it is more factual or not and may join in then.

But the reality is that different engines fit different applications. So the concept of comparing the engines in same circumstances is silly.

Look at my case (low miles and occasional towing), a V10 fits me just fine. For someone who drives all the time and/or is towing all the time, the PSD makes more sense. Yet everyone wants to compare them under the same conditions, then the conditions they set forth favor their engine. So then we all end up defending our engine over and over again.

Then just as soon as the dust settles, someone new comes in and shakes the dust up and the same battles peruses until everyone realizes each engine has it's own application, again.

Like I said before, each engine has it's purpose, and it's an American truck, so just and

 

This is the problem that most gassers have with the psd side. That you all think our trucks have to ride in the truck lane with the flashers on, can't maintain speed without holding the pedal to the floor, won't pull a load unless it's at 5,000 rpm screaming up the hill, etc. Then claim their diesel will pull it at 2,000 rpm without even trying. Your 6.0 (if stock) makes 217 hp under full boost at 2,000 rpm and the v10 makes 283 hp at 3,250 rpm. It won't pull a hill in OD at 2,000 rpm like your 6.0 will, but downshifting a gear and turning ~2,500 rpm is hardly struggling with the pedal to the floor and the flashers on.

 

Man, we are all adults here... Honestly, I think this is all in good fun and most of my posts I am giggling. I think some of you take this all too seriously. LOL is calling someone a childish name really that bad? Quit being butthurt and come back with a logical argument.

 

Exactly. Maybe in the guidelines they should also put no language can be use if it not rated G. And to the people who say we are bashing to justified our purchase. You couldn't be more wrong. I know I got a real truck and I know it can do some real hualing and towing and still get decent mpg. I think it's the gasser that has to justified for their purchase cause it's the gasser that has to come up with all this data and diagrams just to prove their trucks as long as they have 4.30 gears can hang with a psd with 3.73's. But then no gasser will put up a diagram or some facts when the v-10 also have 3.73's that it just gets it butt kicks all around.

 

How did I personally attack you?

 

Because the PSD guys refuse to acknowledge that V10 can tow just as much as a PSD. All these charts and graphs are necessary because you guys just don't seem to get it. There is even a video comparison where an old 2v V10 beat a 7.3 and held its own against a 6.0! You guys even refuse to acknowledge that as well!