I KNOW how many I counted. I was there for almost a week (like I am at least every other year), and unlike you, I was actually in the vehicle doing the counting.
JL

 

Height has more to do with it than you think. If i have a viechal that the bumper is 3 feet off the ground and yours is on the ground, you will be pulling down on me and i will make you loose traction by creating a lift on you. This is the same reason a wrecker lifts up instead of straigh across, by the wrecker liftin up it decreases traction(drag) on the veichal it is pullin out by puttin more weight on his own veichal. Hence lower veichal always wins. Makes sence when you think about it.

thanks for readin

Lane

 

yep-it doesn't take much to get one of those running well.
I good close friend had an '01. I spent several weekends with him at the track with it and my Tbird, and we also spent a couple of weekends working on each other's vehicles. His truck had nothing more than a GOOD tune, pulley, and a converter and it went 12.16@109 on slicks. I've got video of it somewhere at home.
JL

 

Height of the hooks must be equal in a fair tug of war. I thought you were referring to vehicle height. Not trying to be a Dick, but try spell check, it makes it easier for everyone else to understand you. Lower hooked vehicle would lose if everything else is equal, not win.

 

I didn't mention your 6.0 when I was talking about my 5.4 getting better mpg's than MOST 6.0's and 6.4's. Most of the people I know personally or talk to on here get less than 15 mpg's out of theirs. I get 15 mpg's out of my 5.4. Same mpg's plus fuel that is 50 cents less per gallon means it costs me less to drive mine than it does for them to drive theirs.

I would get about 14-14.5 hauling that much weight. Over 500 miles if you got 17.3 mpg's out of yours you would use 28.9 gallons of fuel. At $2.99 per gallon (price here as of today) you would have spent $86. If I only got 14 mpg's I would use 35.7 gallons of gas. At $2.48 per gallon(price here as of today) it would cost me $88.50. Even getting over 3 mpg's more than me, you would only save $2.50 over 500 miles.

The 7.3 in the video Tom and them made was newer than 99 and it didn't do too well either. That 7.3 makes a ton more low end power than my 5.4, however, my truck does not need low end engine torque to get a load moving because of the gearing. My final drive ratio in 1st is 23.45 and the 7.3's was 10.15. He got the load moving by engine torque and I got it moving by gearing. Once we got the load moving the 7.3 was making less hp than my 5.4 and was always one gear ahead of me, so it was putting even less power to the ground. 250 hp in 3rd gear is not going to pull as strong as 260 hp in 2nd gear. If I had an automatic in mine, I wouldn't have even came close to the v10 or the 7.3 because I would have been lucky to get the load moving in the first place.

 

I used autotrader - which of course is only a small subsection of the statistical universe. But oh well...

I'm considering closing it for a day or two just to slow things down.

I am also considering merging another thread where someone claims better than 22MPGs from his 6.4L with a DPF delete and a tune. Of course, anyone who actually never uses their truck for COMMERCIAL use, never gets stopped by the DOT, or even a overzealous state trooper, or lives in a "green" state where they actually emissions/visual check diesels, that's fine.

But I know that thread is going to get a little, shall we say, rancorous?

 

this thread has now become about how similar amounts of power are delivered to the ground....... when.... and why they are delivered that way....

 

Not only 22mpg but and average of almost 22mpg.

 

Go to the 6.0 forum and you will find that city is 15 and highway is closer to 18 stock on the 6.0, unless of course the truck is lifted or some other reason.

When trying to make a point, make it factual. Your 5.4 will not outpull or get better mileage than a stock 6.0. Sorry man, but that's the truth. LOL

 

I had a 5.4 F150 with 4.10 gears and the high payload package (read it was only 500 lbs lighter than my current F250) and I got those exact numbers (15mpg city and 18 mpg highway) with a 4 speed auto tranny. Why couldn't a super duty get those numbers with a 6 speed manual and the same engine and rear end?

 

Your payload might have been higher, but your truck did not weigh in at over 7k pounds...

 

BS on a stock lightning running low 13's. I have seen alot of lightning at the local quarter mile track when they first came out and the best I saw that ran was like a 13.8 or so.

 

My cousin, next door neighbor and all the service trucks that came to our job sites got between 10-15 mpg's. I trust them more than I trust you. Let's use your numbers though. If a 6.0 gets 18 mpg's and my 5.4 gets 15 mpg's then our total fuel cost for 5,000 miles would be 5,000/18=278 gallons x $2.99 per gallon=$831.22 for the 6.0 and 5,000/15=333 gallons x $2.48 per gallon=$825.84 for my 5.4. You save $6 in fuel per oil change interval(but quickly throw it away and more when you change your oil). So sorry man, I don't care what your mpg's are, when you pay more per gallon it evens out. That's just the truth LOL.

My truck doesn't weigh 7k pounds either, so if you want to make a point at least make it factual..... My truck weighs 5,800 with a full tank of gas and me in it.

 

Why is it always a friend of a friend's cousin next door neighbor kind of deal. I mean how trust worthy is that. Well come down here to Texas where the diesel price 2.69 and gas price for regular is 2.39 and what is the savings then?

 

Why is it you can never read? I said my cousin(not any of his friends), my neighbor(not some guy he used to know that may have had a 6.0) and people that worked with me(not someone that some guy that used to work with me was friends with his cousin). These are all people I know directly and have ridden in their trucks and been with them when they stopped for fuel. How much better can I know them than that?

I don't live in Texas do I? The prices there mean nothing to me. Just like Vail Pass. I don't live there, so how a truck performs there means nothing to me either. But using your prices that comes out to $747.82 for the 6.0 and $795.87 for my 5.4. So you would save about $48 per oil change interval. Change the oil and we are pretty much even again.