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Gas vs PSD
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From: Rogersville, TN
I think it is a good idea to track not only fuel costs but also miles traveled. That way we can come up with a price per mile over the course of the year since we will all be driving different amounts of miles. One guy may drive 50k miles in the year and another might only drive 5k, so total fuel cost isn't fair in that case. I think we should keep track of all expenses, including oil changes, fuel additives(for the diesels), etc.
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I have my theory why you don't hear about extensive repairs on V10 with over 200k.
Any serious repair at this point usually is putting the truck on junk yard, while diesel owners will spend even $2500 for new injectors -knowing they have lot of life left in the engine.
Still if we find comparable owners of high mileage trucks that would give us real life data.
I have no doubt that fuel savings on diesel at 200k are so enormous, that even $2500 for the injectors will seem very low price to pay.
Let me calculate. 200,000 miles at 15 mpg makes about $40,000 for fuel.
Even if you calculate only 10% savings comparing to gas engine- you have lot of kudos to play with.
Any serious repair at this point usually is putting the truck on junk yard, while diesel owners will spend even $2500 for new injectors -knowing they have lot of life left in the engine.
Still if we find comparable owners of high mileage trucks that would give us real life data.
I have no doubt that fuel savings on diesel at 200k are so enormous, that even $2500 for the injectors will seem very low price to pay.
Let me calculate. 200,000 miles at 15 mpg makes about $40,000 for fuel.
Even if you calculate only 10% savings comparing to gas engine- you have lot of kudos to play with.
actually my dad has a 7.3 with well over 200k. only major repair was the transmission so far. 4x4 with a bullydog chip i believe he stacked it with a 6 position chip and 5 inch exhaust. no other mods. truck runs great. he might have changed a water pump but not while i was at home. well the 1 other mod he has is the oil bypass system and he runs full synthetic oil which we trully believe in in making an engine ast forever be it gas or diesel. he used to get 18 when he first put the bullydog in it but since he put the six position on top of it and the 5 inch exhaust it has gone down to about 14-15 but it runs like a bat out of hell
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From: emporium
im not worried about me. i would buy a v10 before i would buy a 6.0. in fact i was looking at trucks today for a daily driver and keeping the old psd for hauling. loked at an 05 in loved everything about it but the motor. think im gunna get a 05 duramax instead.
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Joined: Feb 2010
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From: Whitewater, WI
I'm thinking seperate thread with each participant posting update onece a month on a set day. Just got to get some more participants.
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From: Rogersville, TN
http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?...ROD&ProdID=894
Here is a link to that "$2000" pump you mention......
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From: Rogue River, Oregon
While I can't speak for the pump, the tranny price is shockingly close. A freind of my Dad's had the R4100 replaced in his truck and the price was $3,600. High? You bet, but it is what it is. I have seen trannys on ebay for $1500 with a 3 yr/100k warrantee, but then you get to R & R it yourself, plus pay for shipping, etc.
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From: Rogersville, TN
While I can't speak for the pump, the tranny price is shockingly close. A freind of my Dad's had the R4100 replaced in his truck and the price was $3,600. High? You bet, but it is what it is. I have seen trannys on ebay for $1500 with a 3 yr/100k warrantee, but then you get to R & R it yourself, plus pay for shipping, etc.
After my last post(at 1pm) I went and ate lunch and then cleaned my dog lot out. I started working on my cars at 3 pm. It is now 6:30 and I just installed an 8.8" rear end and brake lines in one mustang and put an engine and tranny in my other. That is 3 hours. At $60 an hour that is $180 for everything I just did. If someone charges you more than that to install a tranny, you are getting ripped off.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Mar 2009
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From: Jessup, PA
Regardless of how fast you are on installation, around here shops go by estimating books. When someone gets an estimate, the shop looks it up in the book to get the time for installation.
So, no matter what shop a person goes to, the time for installation is supposed to be the same and the only thing that differs is the labor rate and miscellaneous charges like if you break a bolt or charging for cleaners by the whole can. If you could do it in less time then that is to your benefit. If it takes you longer then you loose money.
So, no matter what shop a person goes to, the time for installation is supposed to be the same and the only thing that differs is the labor rate and miscellaneous charges like if you break a bolt or charging for cleaners by the whole can. If you could do it in less time then that is to your benefit. If it takes you longer then you loose money.
More Turbo
Joined: Jan 2010
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From: Las Vegas, Nevada
You guys need to start using lose the right way, not loose.
Loose is like the old girlfriend you had from high school.
Lose is like you v10 guys are going to lose this battle.
Postmaster
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From: Rogersville, TN
Read your last sentence though. "Best build in the country." That is always going to cost more than a stock replacement. I can get tremec tko 600 for my mustang for $1,800 or I could have my stock t5 rebuilt for $250, which I did not too long ago. That was with me taking it out and putting it back in, but a full rebuild done by the shop. I'm not saying there aren't $5k e4od/4r100's out there, but they sure as heck aren't stock replacements.