Gas vs PSD
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Wait, I never said the PSD was better, just that the 7.3 was cheaper to operate.
I still think a V10 is cheaper to run then a 6.0,6.4 , and I am sure a V10 will out pull a psd.
Broncoholic, yes a cummins is better than a 7.3, imo.
I still think a V10 is cheaper to run then a 6.0,6.4 , and I am sure a V10 will out pull a psd.
Broncoholic, yes a cummins is better than a 7.3, imo.
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that all depends on which year models you are comparing and what you consider "better". from a power standpoint, in stock form, the edge goes to the 7.3. if you are comparing 94-97 from both models, the 7.3 has more hp, more tq(in some cases) and is electronically controlled. if you are comparing 98-02 models the 7.3 still has more hp and tq by a considerable amount.
power numbers from the cummins in 94 and 95 was 175/160 hp and 420/400 tq. 96-98 was 215/180 hp and 440/420 tq. the first number is for manuals and the second is for autos. the psd from 94-97 was 225 hp and 425 tq. the dodges from these years can't be chipped and the psd can.
from 98-02 the dodge was 235/215 hp and 460/420 tq. the 7.3 was 250 hp and 525 tq.
power numbers from the cummins in 94 and 95 was 175/160 hp and 420/400 tq. 96-98 was 215/180 hp and 440/420 tq. the first number is for manuals and the second is for autos. the psd from 94-97 was 225 hp and 425 tq. the dodges from these years can't be chipped and the psd can.
from 98-02 the dodge was 235/215 hp and 460/420 tq. the 7.3 was 250 hp and 525 tq.
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you very well might out pull me, but you wont out pull a 05 V10 with 362 HP.
After collage I will have the money to get a whole new exhaust system, rear gears, 5 star tune,intake and some PI 310 HP heads.
I think with the mods I can get about 340 - 350 HP out of it, but without the hassles of a 3v swap.
So 75-85 more HP and the swap from 3.73s to 4.30s, The difference should be unbelievable!
The only thing is I don't want to pull it apart tell it is dead, and who nows how long that could take.
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that all depends on which year models you are comparing and what you consider "better". from a power standpoint, in stock form, the edge goes to the 7.3. if you are comparing 94-97 from both models, the 7.3 has more hp, more tq(in some cases) and is electronically controlled. if you are comparing 98-02 models the 7.3 still has more hp and tq by a considerable amount.
power numbers from the cummins in 94 and 95 was 175/160 hp and 420/400 tq. 96-98 was 215/180 hp and 440/420 tq. the first number is for manuals and the second is for autos. the psd from 94-97 was 225 hp and 425 tq. the dodges from these years can't be chipped and the psd can.
from 98-02 the dodge was 235/215 hp and 460/420 tq. the 7.3 was 250 hp and 525 tq.
power numbers from the cummins in 94 and 95 was 175/160 hp and 420/400 tq. 96-98 was 215/180 hp and 440/420 tq. the first number is for manuals and the second is for autos. the psd from 94-97 was 225 hp and 425 tq. the dodges from these years can't be chipped and the psd can.
from 98-02 the dodge was 235/215 hp and 460/420 tq. the 7.3 was 250 hp and 525 tq.
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i don't think you can go wrong with either a cummins or a 7.3. i just think that on a year to year basis(in stock form) the 7.3 was a step ahead of the cummins.
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When you mod them the cummins pulls far ahead of the 7.3. The 6.0 is the first to compete with the 5.9 as far as A/M add on performance, but has those damn tty headbolts.lol
edit: Also, the resale of diesels goes up somtimes.lol bought my dodge w/ 112k on it for 21.5K drove it for a year and a half, sold it with 130somethinK and sold it for 23K.
edit: Also, the resale of diesels goes up somtimes.lol bought my dodge w/ 112k on it for 21.5K drove it for a year and a half, sold it with 130somethinK and sold it for 23K.
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you can get the same end result from a non electronically controlled diesel. the electronic control just allows for better use. you can adjust it on the fly so you can have power when you need it and fuel economy when you dont need the extra power.
i don't think you can go wrong with either a cummins or a 7.3. i just think that on a year to year basis(in stock form) the 7.3 was a step ahead of the cummins.
i don't think you can go wrong with either a cummins or a 7.3. i just think that on a year to year basis(in stock form) the 7.3 was a step ahead of the cummins.
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yep, its a shame they never put a cummins in a ford. ( I wont count the F650 )
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Hee is a nice little mod for ya Bill...
well, I mean stock to stock.
you very well might out pull me, but you wont out pull a 05 V10 with 362 HP.
After collage I will have the money to get a whole new exhaust system, rear gears, 5 star tune,intake and some PI 310 HP heads.
I think with the mods I can get about 340 - 350 HP out of it, but without the hassles of a 3v swap.
Try this on for size
So 75-85 more HP and the swap from 3.73s to 4.30s, The difference should be unbelievable!
The only thing is I don't want to pull it apart tell it is dead, and who nows how long that could take.
you very well might out pull me, but you wont out pull a 05 V10 with 362 HP.
After collage I will have the money to get a whole new exhaust system, rear gears, 5 star tune,intake and some PI 310 HP heads.
I think with the mods I can get about 340 - 350 HP out of it, but without the hassles of a 3v swap.
Try this on for size
So 75-85 more HP and the swap from 3.73s to 4.30s, The difference should be unbelievable!
The only thing is I don't want to pull it apart tell it is dead, and who nows how long that could take.
This is a nice addition of twins.
Car Videos - V10 Twin Turbo Ford Mustang
We have to look int o this anyone have one?
This would fit anything if it goes in a stang.
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for what the majority of people do(chips, exhaust, and injectors) they are pretty even in terms of power gained per dollar spent. it's a totally different story though once you start talking big time power. you can mod a 7.3 to get big power like the cummins, it's just going to cost you an arm and a leg to do it. there was one 7.3 in a mag a while back that had over 1500 hp (i cant remember the tq number), but he had to spend upwards of 30k dollars to do it. the cummins could have done it for much much less. i would say the cummins would probably be a lot more durable with that much power too. i like both engines though, so i don't have anything bad to say about either one of them.
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for what the majority of people do(chips, exhaust, and injectors) they are pretty even in terms of power gained per dollar spent. it's a totally different story though once you start talking big time power though. you can mod a 7.3 to get big power like the cummins, it's just going to cost you an arm and a leg to do it. there was one 7.3 in a mag a while back that had over 1500 hp (i cant remember the tq number), but he had to spend upwards of 30k dollars to do it. the cummins could have done it for much much less. i would say the cummins would probably be a lot more durable with that much power too. i like both engines though, so i don't have anything bad to say about either one of them.
I am not a fan of that kind of power, It cost to much and rips the truck apart.
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This is a nice addition of twins.
Car Videos - V10 Twin Turbo Ford Mustang
We have to look int o this anyone have one?
This would fit anything if it goes in a stang.
Car Videos - V10 Twin Turbo Ford Mustang
We have to look int o this anyone have one?
This would fit anything if it goes in a stang.