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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
The V10 has the same longevity as the PSD, that is not a valid argument.
the v10 does have good longevity, but i wouldn't put it on par with a diesel. i've driven some 5.4's and v10's with over 200k miles on them and they didn't run nearly as good as they did when they were newer. the majority of diesels with that many miles are pulling just as strong as they did when they were new.

by nature the gasser is going to have more internal friction than a diesel, so the parts are going to wear a lot faster. diesels pump a ton more oil on moving parts than gassers, so parts like bearings don't wear as quickly(less vibrations at higher mileage) and cylinder walls/rings dont get worn as much(not as much loss of compression over time).
 
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BadAzzFordF250
Okay this is freaking stupid, I think this thread should just be ended. I mean we could sit here for the next 10 years fighting over what who thinks what is better and obviously everyone bought the truck they wanted. I mean the guy who started this post is not looking to buy a diesel. I am not sure what type of answer he wants but maybe this will help "V10's are better than diesel, they can do everything that a diesel can do and they are cheaper and this is coming from a diesel owner!!!!".
Who are you? The Raja of Punjab? You are registered here for a whole two days and you decree that this thread should be ended? I doubt you even took the time to read this whole thread from begining to end. Sorry, your highness. We do not end threads just because you personally dislike them. This is the type of thread that will never end conclusively. So grab a cold one and sit back and enjoy the ride. Continue to post your experiences and opinion. That's what it's all about.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by horsepuller
Who are you? The Raja of Punjab? You are registered here for a whole two days and you decree that this thread should be ended? I doubt you even took the time to read this whole thread from begining to end. Sorry, your highness. We do not end threads just because you personally dislike them. This is the type of thread that will never end conclusively. So grab a cold one and sit back and enjoy the ride. Continue to post your experiences and opinion. That's what it's all about.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by IB Adrian
I think it is fair to state that traditionally diesels have had a much longer service life than their equivalent gas engines.
Is that the case with the V10 vs. the PSD?
Arbitrarily - not necessarily.
I don't have the statistics to back it up, but I would not be remotely surprised if the average service life of a PSD equipped truck was around 50-100% greater than that of a V10.
This isn't necessarily 100% based on the fact that the engine is more durable (although medium duty diesels like the PSD are designed for a service life @ 90% of capacity for 250,000miles in lieu of 150,000 for a gas engine) as the diesel trucks are more expensive to purchase its easier for owners to justify higher ongoing maintenance and repair costs because the replacement cost is higher.It doesn't need to be stupid, in fact it can be quite informative to the users who may be considering a new truck.
By the same token it can be a lot of senseless drivel if the users wish it to be too.
And what does that have to do with the price of fish?
+1 again, it was because of this forum I went and purchased an 05 250 crew cab PSD Lariat. If I hadn't been reading up on this forum, I might of made the mistake of an earlier model where there were more issues. But that's besides the point... GOOO PSD
 
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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Why do people do that? I'm having fun here! So what if it never ends?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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So you guys reached any conclusion yet? I need to know which is better here in a couple years when I'm looking to trade again.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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DIESEL RULZ... $2.59 PER GALLON vs. $3.12 PER GALLON (the cheap stuff)
 
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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What would I do with all of my spare time if this thread ended? I guess I could go over to the gun boards and argue .45 vs. 9mm.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kenny832
DIESEL RULZ... $2.59 PER GALLON vs. $3.12 PER GALLON (the cheap stuff)
Ha....not in my back yard. Still about equal. Just wondering what will happen shortly when the need for winter heating oil kicks in.

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What would I do with all of my spare time if this thread ended? I guess I could go over to the gun boards and argue .45 vs. 9mm.
You mean .357 VS 9mm, don't you?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by alchymist
You mean .357 VS 9mm, don't you?
Heh heh... See what I mean?

Actually, I think .45 vs. 9mm might be more analogous to the "Torque vs. Horsepower" argument.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KelVarnson
Heh heh... See what I mean?

Actually, I think .45 vs. 9mm might be more analogous to the "Torque vs. Horsepower" argument.
So, you're saying .45 for the PSD owners, 9mm for V10? I guess the .357 is for the 5.4 owners then? Dang, did it wrong again.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BadAzzFordF250
Im going to 100% disagree with you based of my opinions and we are all entited to our own opinions. We have a fleet of 20-22 Ford 250/350's combined. We "used to" have V10's but than got rid of the 5 we had because we had much better luck with diesels. We drive anywhere from 125-144k miles "per year". We haul and tow machines that you probably will never even haul in the lifetime of the truck you own and I don't mean this in a rude or mean way but the gasser were only lasting 200k at max without major problems. We have about 14 diesels that have well over 320k miles and have only had minor problems. They still run the same way as when we picked them up off the lot. After all the miles we put on them they always seem to have lagging problems, although we had one go 285k than it just pooped out.
I don't take it as in insult, but I do want to know what you are hauling that makes you say that, because I weighted in at 22k day before last at the scrap yard.
That is the most I have hauled and about the worst I will push it, what are you running for weight?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by alchymist
So, you're saying .45 for the PSD owners, 9mm for V10? I guess the .357 is for the 5.4 owners then? Dang, did it wrong again.
Oh boy, here we go. I am probably going to get flamed for saying that a 9 has, on average, more energy than a .45, and a .357 of course trumps them both.

So I am going to say:

.45 = 7.3L PSD
9mm = 5.4 Triton
.357 = V10 Triton

Fill in the blanks for the 6.0 and the 6.4. Maybe .40 S&W and 10MM, respectively?

I will be taking this thread to NEW HEIGHTS by being flamed by both the truck nuts and the gun nuts.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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I think the 7.3 is a bit closer to a .380!
 
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by KelVarnson
What would I do with all of my spare time if this thread ended? I guess I could go over to the gun boards and argue .45 vs. 9mm.
I do that some times, there is no replacement for a good old M1911-A1.
.45 all the way!!!!
 
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