Gas vs PSD
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Thats your ride? Looks like a Mormon Mover to me! lol. I'd like to see you put 1500 worth of mods like I did and **** out 600hp and 1100lbs of torque. Say what you want about stock, I'm talking about what we got and what our current situations will do. I'd leave you so far behind you'd be thinking your Mormon Mover wasn't even started. Just kidding. I like the Maroon its pretty.
Nothing like a good old fashioned "my dicks bigger than yours" war!
My 08 6.4 is the first diesel I owned and the only reason I bought it was because I was going to buy a 08 V10 and I actualy signed the papers and took it home. I went straight home and put my 10k trailer on it and took it for a ride in the good old Pacific Northwest and it was a joke up hill. Took it back and told the guys I didn't want it. I had a 3day period to break contract. They let me take a 6.4 home before I completly backed out of the sale. Loaded it up stock and it was a night and day diffrence going up a hill. I stuck with the PSD. I was actualy excited about my new truck, alot better than going home dissapointed after $45K.
The 7mpg was also a nice little treat on the V10 too. With my tuner I now get 14 towing/ 16city/ 24hwy. Thats almost exactly double the gas the V10 was getting. Nice truck but I'd rather pay more anyday for that diesel upgrade when your wanting a truck to perform like it aint gasping for air when towing.
Might wanna look into some stiffer leaf springs, or an add-a-leaf. Maybe some air bags. Thats some nasty sag you got there bro. Well at least its a Ford!
Nothing like a good old fashioned "my dicks bigger than yours" war!
My 08 6.4 is the first diesel I owned and the only reason I bought it was because I was going to buy a 08 V10 and I actualy signed the papers and took it home. I went straight home and put my 10k trailer on it and took it for a ride in the good old Pacific Northwest and it was a joke up hill. Took it back and told the guys I didn't want it. I had a 3day period to break contract. They let me take a 6.4 home before I completly backed out of the sale. Loaded it up stock and it was a night and day diffrence going up a hill. I stuck with the PSD. I was actualy excited about my new truck, alot better than going home dissapointed after $45K.
The 7mpg was also a nice little treat on the V10 too. With my tuner I now get 14 towing/ 16city/ 24hwy. Thats almost exactly double the gas the V10 was getting. Nice truck but I'd rather pay more anyday for that diesel upgrade when your wanting a truck to perform like it aint gasping for air when towing.
Might wanna look into some stiffer leaf springs, or an add-a-leaf. Maybe some air bags. Thats some nasty sag you got there bro. Well at least its a Ford!
I just got a WD hitch to fix the sag, The one pic that it is so bad in because I had it way over the rear axle weight rating.
5/8 Steel plate in the back of the van and on the nose of the trailer.
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Thats your ride? Looks like a Mormon Mover to me! lol. I'd like to see you put 1500 worth of mods like I did and **** out 600hp and 1100lbs of torque. Say what you want about stock, I'm talking about what we got and what our current situations will do. I'd leave you so far behind you'd be thinking your Mormon Mover wasn't even started. Just kidding. I like the Maroon its pretty.
Nothing like a good old fashioned "my dicks bigger than yours" war!
My 08 6.4 is the first diesel I owned and the only reason I bought it was because I was going to buy a 08 V10 and I actualy signed the papers and took it home. I went straight home and put my 10k trailer on it and took it for a ride in the good old Pacific Northwest and it was a joke up hill. Took it back and told the guys I didn't want it. I had a 3day period to break contract. They let me take a 6.4 home before I completly backed out of the sale. Loaded it up stock and it was a night and day diffrence going up a hill. I stuck with the PSD. I was actualy excited about my new truck, alot better than going home dissapointed after $45K.
The 7mpg was also a nice little treat on the V10 too. With my tuner I now get 14 towing/ 16city/ 24hwy. Thats almost exactly double the gas the V10 was getting. Nice truck but I'd rather pay more anyday for that diesel upgrade when your wanting a truck to perform like it aint gasping for air when towing.
Might wanna look into some stiffer leaf springs, or an add-a-leaf. Maybe some air bags. Thats some nasty sag you got there bro. Well at least its a Ford!
Nothing like a good old fashioned "my dicks bigger than yours" war!
My 08 6.4 is the first diesel I owned and the only reason I bought it was because I was going to buy a 08 V10 and I actualy signed the papers and took it home. I went straight home and put my 10k trailer on it and took it for a ride in the good old Pacific Northwest and it was a joke up hill. Took it back and told the guys I didn't want it. I had a 3day period to break contract. They let me take a 6.4 home before I completly backed out of the sale. Loaded it up stock and it was a night and day diffrence going up a hill. I stuck with the PSD. I was actualy excited about my new truck, alot better than going home dissapointed after $45K.
The 7mpg was also a nice little treat on the V10 too. With my tuner I now get 14 towing/ 16city/ 24hwy. Thats almost exactly double the gas the V10 was getting. Nice truck but I'd rather pay more anyday for that diesel upgrade when your wanting a truck to perform like it aint gasping for air when towing.
Might wanna look into some stiffer leaf springs, or an add-a-leaf. Maybe some air bags. Thats some nasty sag you got there bro. Well at least its a Ford!
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I'm going to have to ask you and PHElectric to take your arguments elsewhere. At least until you have something uselful that you can post here in the form of an equation or theory. There is no place in the thread for logical stuff like actually owning both vehicles or comparing both vehicles with the same trailer on the same road. From now on try to begin all posts with some sort of phrase like "on paper" or "according to this formula", etc.
When I read the first two sentences in your post, I almost choked on my coffee.
Then I read the rest, and all was well in the world...
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What altitude are yall talking about?
The V10 loses about 7 HP for every 1000 feet above sea level, the PSD will go over 5,000 feet before loosing power.
If you do the math on paper and you include all factors, it is the same as real world.
The V10 loses about 7 HP for every 1000 feet above sea level, the PSD will go over 5,000 feet before loosing power.
If you do the math on paper and you include all factors, it is the same as real world.
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Looks to be slowing down now we saw Bills Mormon Mover
In theory the PDS is better at high altitudes, V10 is better around town ( in an over stuffed van)
Bill you need to sell the Van & get a real tow rig.
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Why sell it?
I have a DRW OBS pick up, but the 460 is crap compared to the V10, so I never use it.
The van's chassis is rated at 20k GCWR and 10k gvw.
Other than a 5th wheel a pick up would not be any better.
It has never had a problem towing, I do need a bigger trailer.
It needs a WD hitch, I am putting it on today.
I have a DRW OBS pick up, but the 460 is crap compared to the V10, so I never use it.
The van's chassis is rated at 20k GCWR and 10k gvw.
Other than a 5th wheel a pick up would not be any better.
It has never had a problem towing, I do need a bigger trailer.
It needs a WD hitch, I am putting it on today.
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After having read all posts in this thread, nowhere did I see a post with enough math "to include all factors." In fact, we don't even have enough information to do it. That is why some are seeing a difference between what the formula's say and what their real world experience says.
BTW, where did you come up with the 5,000 foot number? I have been trying to figure out what the number is so I am curious.
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Good point, But you will be much closer to the numbers being right if you include elevation.
around 5,000 feet is what a few of the PSD guys have said before on here, I was just quoting them.
around 5,000 feet is what a few of the PSD guys have said before on here, I was just quoting them.