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Gas vs PSD
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2X on that I like the 7.3 the best out of any PSD, I would stay true FoMoCo if I could afford it...
I have enuff Blue blood around here, so I think the Ford Gods would say it is OK..
But the Cummins in a Ford is the best way to go all around.. 5.9 smaller lighter = Stronger.
The 6.0 is a very hot PSD till they blow up, I want reliability & HP...
I have enuff Blue blood around here, so I think the Ford Gods would say it is OK..
But the Cummins in a Ford is the best way to go all around.. 5.9 smaller lighter = Stronger.
The 6.0 is a very hot PSD till they blow up, I want reliability & HP...
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for what the majority of people do(chips, exhaust, and injectors) they are pretty even in terms of power gained per dollar spent. it's a totally different story though once you start talking big time power. you can mod a 7.3 to get big power like the cummins, it's just going to cost you an arm and a leg to do it. there was one 7.3 in a mag a while back that had over 1500 hp (i cant remember the tq number), but he had to spend upwards of 30k dollars to do it. the cummins could have done it for much much less. i would say the cummins would probably be a lot more durable with that much power too. i like both engines though, so i don't have anything bad to say about either one of them.
I would have to throw this one out, The only thing that was remotly close to it still being a 7.3 was maybe the block, which was probably filled anyways. The truck was mechanically injected not HEUI. Dont get me wrong, its awsome that someone took a powerstroke and made big numbers like that, but IMO its not a powerstroke anymore.
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resale means nothing to me, I have no reason to sell my truck.
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I would have to throw this one out, The only thing that was remotly close to it still being a 7.3 was maybe the block, which was probably filled anyways. The truck was mechanically injected not HEUI. Dont get me wrong, its awsome that someone took a powerstroke and made big numbers like that, but IMO its not a powerstroke anymore.
that's like telling a guy that has 5.0 mustang that he doesn't have a 302 anymore because he put a carb, forged rods/pistons/crank, main girdle, aluminum heads/intake, roller rockers, etc on it.
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I personally don't think you can compare a V10 gasser to a PSD Diesel truck. I mean don't get me wrong the V10 is a great truck but it's like comparing an apple to an orange. They both will have their advantages and disadvantages. This question is way to broad, an overall truck most people hands down would rather have a diesel than a gasser in general because of the longivity and resale, but both of those didn't sound like what you really cared about. As far as a work truck goes id much rather have a diesel than a gasser. If I am just going to the store getting groceries, occasionally pulling my boat on the weekends as well as maybe pulling things at time to time than id go gas no questions asked.
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I personally don't think you can compare a V10 gasser to a PSD Diesel truck. I mean don't get me wrong the V10 is a great truck but it's like comparing an apple to an orange. They both will have their advantages and disadvantages. This question is way to broad, an overall truck most people hands down would rather have a diesel than a gasser in general because of the longivity and resale, but both of those didn't sound like what you really cared about. As far as a work truck goes id much rather have a diesel than a gasser. If I am just going to the store getting groceries, occasionally pulling my boat on the weekends as well as maybe pulling things at time to time than id go gas no questions asked.
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i prefer a diesel for a whole slew of reasons, but i have to defend the v10 here. i dont know if youve driven a 3 v10 or not, but it's no slouch in terms of power. it's very comprable to an OBS 7.3 at low rpms and then runs away from it at higher rpms. at 2k rpm my 7.3 is making 163 hp and 425 tq and the 3v v10 is making 157 hp and 411 tq. by 3k rpm mine has dropped off to 225 hp and 394 tq while the v10 has jumped to about 254 hp and 445 tq. so it's far from just being a grocery getter or weekend boat puller.
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Okay this is freaking stupid, I think this thread should just be ended. I mean we could sit here for the next 10 years fighting over what who thinks what is better and obviously everyone bought the truck they wanted. I mean the guy who started this post is not looking to buy a diesel. I am not sure what type of answer he wants but maybe this will help "V10's are better than diesel, they can do everything that a diesel can do and they are cheaper and this is coming from a diesel owner!!!!".
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I personally don't think you can compare a V10 gasser to a PSD Diesel truck. I mean don't get me wrong the V10 is a great truck but it's like comparing an apple to an orange. They both will have their advantages and disadvantages. This question is way to broad, an overall truck most people hands down would rather have a diesel than a gasser in general because of the longivity and resale, but both of those didn't sound like what you really cared about. As far as a work truck goes id much rather have a diesel than a gasser. If I am just going to the store getting groceries, occasionally pulling my boat on the weekends as well as maybe pulling things at time to time than id go gas no questions asked.
No you have it all wrong it is like:YouTube - Granny shooting machine gun!!
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i'm with you on saying the diesel is the better towing rig. i wouldn't own one if i thought otherwise. the v10 won't compete with a super duty diesel at low rpms by any stretch of the imagination, but it will hang right with mine, and i don't consider mine to be lacking in power by any means.
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I just bought a 2005 PSD and I love it. Wanted the 2003 7.3 but they're hard to come by. I don't think I even considered the V10. I was pulling my 20' enclosed up the pass and broke the tires loose passing a gasser, that made my day! 
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Im going to 100% disagree with you based of my opinions and we are all entited to our own opinions. We have a fleet of 20-22 Ford 250/350's combined. We "used to" have V10's but than got rid of the 5 we had because we had much better luck with diesels. We drive anywhere from 125-144k miles "per year". We haul and tow machines that you probably will never even haul in the lifetime of the truck you own and I don't mean this in a rude or mean way but the gasser were only lasting 200k at max without major problems. We have about 14 diesels that have well over 320k miles and have only had minor problems. They still run the same way as when we picked them up off the lot. After all the miles we put on them they always seem to have lagging problems, although we had one go 285k than it just pooped out.
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Is that the case with the V10 vs. the PSD?
Arbitrarily - not necessarily.
I don't have the statistics to back it up, but I would not be remotely surprised if the average service life of a PSD equipped truck was around 50-100% greater than that of a V10.
This isn't necessarily 100% based on the fact that the engine is more durable (although medium duty diesels like the PSD are designed for a service life @ 90% of capacity for 250,000miles in lieu of 150,000 for a gas engine) as the diesel trucks are more expensive to purchase its easier for owners to justify higher ongoing maintenance and repair costs because the replacement cost is higher.
By the same token it can be a lot of senseless drivel if the users wish it to be too.
No it is more like Granny vs. The machine gun
No you have it all wrong it is like:YouTube - Granny shooting machine gun!!
No you have it all wrong it is like:YouTube - Granny shooting machine gun!!
