The HHO injection thread
#331
The box i beleive can handle probally 190 degs or more,i put hot water to 125 degs and it was still solid with no effects at all..
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...1/PICT0002.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...1/PICT0002.jpg
#332
Hey guys,
I did have the 7 cell units wired in series, the amp draw was rediculous, ocer 60 amps so i wire 3 cels together and then the remaining 4 cells on each unit, amp draw went way down and then i brought it back up with my electrolyte mix which is 4 TBLSPN potassium hydroxide to 2.5Gal distilled water.
I have turkey thermometers mounted on the outside of my units and so far they have reached 130 degrees so i would be leary of using a thin polyethylene container which i see in the pics posted by waynbo unless you have a PWM unit controlling the current so you amp draw/heat build up is low. I am STILL waiting for my PWMPOWER.COM pwm unit to arrive, who knows when that will be so i purchased another from D14 Lawton Style PWM
cant wait to get one ogf these hhoked up as well as my new MAP adjuster to lean it out at highway cruise to see if i can reach my goal of 30MPG!
Later
Tim
I did have the 7 cell units wired in series, the amp draw was rediculous, ocer 60 amps so i wire 3 cels together and then the remaining 4 cells on each unit, amp draw went way down and then i brought it back up with my electrolyte mix which is 4 TBLSPN potassium hydroxide to 2.5Gal distilled water.
I have turkey thermometers mounted on the outside of my units and so far they have reached 130 degrees so i would be leary of using a thin polyethylene container which i see in the pics posted by waynbo unless you have a PWM unit controlling the current so you amp draw/heat build up is low. I am STILL waiting for my PWMPOWER.COM pwm unit to arrive, who knows when that will be so i purchased another from D14 Lawton Style PWM
cant wait to get one ogf these hhoked up as well as my new MAP adjuster to lean it out at highway cruise to see if i can reach my goal of 30MPG!
Later
Tim
#333
Hey guys,
I did have the 7 cell units wired in series, the amp draw was rediculous, ocer 60 amps so i wire 3 cels together and then the remaining 4 cells on each unit, amp draw went way down and then i brought it back up with my electrolyte mix which is 4 TBLSPN potassium hydroxide to 2.5Gal distilled water.
I have turkey thermometers mounted on the outside of my units and so far they have reached 130 degrees so i would be leary of using a thin polyethylene container which i see in the pics posted by waynbo unless you have a PWM unit controlling the current so you amp draw/heat build up is low. I am STILL waiting for my PWMPOWER.COM pwm unit to arrive, who knows when that will be so i purchased another from D14 Lawton Style PWM
cant wait to get one ogf these hhoked up as well as my new MAP adjuster to lean it out at highway cruise to see if i can reach my goal of 30MPG!
Later
Tim
I did have the 7 cell units wired in series, the amp draw was rediculous, ocer 60 amps so i wire 3 cels together and then the remaining 4 cells on each unit, amp draw went way down and then i brought it back up with my electrolyte mix which is 4 TBLSPN potassium hydroxide to 2.5Gal distilled water.
I have turkey thermometers mounted on the outside of my units and so far they have reached 130 degrees so i would be leary of using a thin polyethylene container which i see in the pics posted by waynbo unless you have a PWM unit controlling the current so you amp draw/heat build up is low. I am STILL waiting for my PWMPOWER.COM pwm unit to arrive, who knows when that will be so i purchased another from D14 Lawton Style PWM
cant wait to get one ogf these hhoked up as well as my new MAP adjuster to lean it out at highway cruise to see if i can reach my goal of 30MPG!
Later
Tim
I am in the process of building my smack.
#334
Consider your truck battery.
6 cells wired in series, 2 volts per cell = 12 volt battery
So with a constant electrolyte strength and plate spacing, a 6 cell HHO generator will divide the 13.5 volts by 6 and use 2.25 volts per cell.
In my first test I hooked the negative to the long center plate, and a positive to each long side plate.
Spacing was .125" between plates that are 2" x 15" x .125".
The way it is, there are 4 cells per side wire series, and the two sides are wired parallel, so I was running 3.4 volts per cell and drawing about 20 amps per side for a 40 amp total draw.
I was making a liter of gas in 45 seconds.
Right now I have about 3/4 the stuff I need to change the spacing between plates to .0625" and add several more plates to each side.
Still waiting on another handfull of nylon washers so I can put it all back together.
If I was thinking right that night, I would have changed the wiring so positive went in one side plate and negative went in the other side plate to see what difference 8 cells wired series made in draw and production.
But I was tired and didn't think everything through before I tore it apart.
I may stick it back together just so I can do that while waiting on more parts though.
My original plan had a setup like that, with every other plate being either positive or negative.
But to much of my reading research has led me to believe that setup will have temperature problems.
So I went with the change in an effort to drop the voltage between plates to under 2 volts, just didn't have enough parts to get 7 plates on each side.
6 cells wired in series, 2 volts per cell = 12 volt battery
So with a constant electrolyte strength and plate spacing, a 6 cell HHO generator will divide the 13.5 volts by 6 and use 2.25 volts per cell.
In my first test I hooked the negative to the long center plate, and a positive to each long side plate.
Spacing was .125" between plates that are 2" x 15" x .125".
The way it is, there are 4 cells per side wire series, and the two sides are wired parallel, so I was running 3.4 volts per cell and drawing about 20 amps per side for a 40 amp total draw.
I was making a liter of gas in 45 seconds.
Right now I have about 3/4 the stuff I need to change the spacing between plates to .0625" and add several more plates to each side.
Still waiting on another handfull of nylon washers so I can put it all back together.
If I was thinking right that night, I would have changed the wiring so positive went in one side plate and negative went in the other side plate to see what difference 8 cells wired series made in draw and production.
But I was tired and didn't think everything through before I tore it apart.
I may stick it back together just so I can do that while waiting on more parts though.
My original plan had a setup like that, with every other plate being either positive or negative.
But to much of my reading research has led me to believe that setup will have temperature problems.
So I went with the change in an effort to drop the voltage between plates to under 2 volts, just didn't have enough parts to get 7 plates on each side.
#335
Dave....how are you isolating the + & - plates from the all thread you have holding the plates together? This is why I went with a nylon bolt & sleeve to hold all the plates together. I plan to do some more experimenting with mine Wednesday evening as I will be home alone for the evening.
#337
#338
This is a huge thread here and i am trying to take it all in. anyway has anyone played with the spacing of the plates? I see that most are using .125 spacing. I just watched a video (youtube i think) that they had .010 spacing using electric tape and seemed to get nice size bubbles from it. Just thought i would throw that in there. maybe you all have done it already.
#340
The box i beleive can handle probally 190 degs or more,i put hot water to 125 degs and it was still solid with no effects at all..
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...1/PICT0002.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...1/PICT0002.jpg
#341
http://www.theoutdoorworld.com/products2.cfm?id=3392
Hers another box that i like..Sportsmen’s Dry Box - SDB-0
http://www.ammoboxes.com/atvdrybox.html
#342
I just did some math in another thread. If anyone can correct it please do.
It actually got me more excited! If only it could get me more time!
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ml#post6265167
It actually got me more excited! If only it could get me more time!
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ml#post6265167
#343
I just did some math in another thread. If anyone can correct it please do.
It actually got me more excited! If only it could get me more time!
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ml#post6265167
It actually got me more excited! If only it could get me more time!
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ml#post6265167
#345
Definitely read everything here... and there are some good pointers to other sites. I found a couple of sellers of 316L plates already cut on EBAY.