Its all about the benjamins... And Im not talking about the movie.

Again, I figured it would carry on like this. I stated so earlier. i.e synthetic oil: some people noticed very positive results, some noticed no change, and others had problems (hiccup). Same can be said about the kwik mod and the HPX line. I do not know if it is a difference in trucks or just paranoia or skepticism.

 

I think its a little of both myself. I remember this one day when I was looking for my truck I went to the Ford dealer and I must have driven around 8-9 PSD's. All of them where different in power, sound, ride quality etc. My buddy at work has the exact same truck as me and they feel completely different and sound different.

 

True, but there's only one F-250, and everything else is an option.

These are two completely seperate units from design all the way to application. There has to be a compelling reason for this. Ever talked to a board of directors? Ever had to explain why you pisses away a whole bunch of money?

I gotta think they would save the bucks if they could. They aren't just perging old stock here.

 

This my theory, right or wrong it makes the most sense to me.
I think it all boils down to the air gap. Blown99 said that most of the time the air gap is too wide from the front cover to the cam sensing ring on the 444. We know the blue cps has a stronger magnetic field, I believe it makes up for the wider air gap that some of our trucks have, including mine. If someones truck already has the proper air gap, then you would not see much of a change with the blue C92 CPS.
When My shoulder gets up to par, I'm going to check the air gap on my truck, just to see if my theory holds water.
Craven

 

so why not one size fits all?

 

I don't know, you might have to ask Honeywell about that.

 

Dead end.

http://content.honeywell.com/sensing...ank_screen.pdf

Can you believe they don't even want to talk to me about it?

 

This CPS issue is something else.

 

I think it's getting out of hand. I understand all the questions, but jeez...

 

Yeah, lots of questions. What happened to the person that was going to post dyno results??

 

Here again.


blue cps 389hp and 738tq

Ford cps 397hp and 712tq.

The Ford cps was new out of the box for the test.

on this truck. dyno 1/28/06


02 F-350 CC Lariat 219k miles,BTS Tranny,466 CPS,EIS hybrid singles 230cc,SX regulated fuel system,Custom DP-Tuner chip,WOP QSSB,Hypermax Taper Core,Modded IDM,Self made intake,4"DP back to a pair of 6" stacks through my shell,6" lift,33" tires,CCV mod,Procomp Ultra lite Pyro Boost Tranny Fuel Psi.

 

so would it be safe to assume that the shift from hp to tq is what gives the mpg gain?

for those that notice one. some people claim no change.

 

Cleatus12R was going to compare the blue to stock last weekend by checking for a timing change and a few other things, if he posted I missed it and any replies. Cleatus12R if you have not posted your results please do so when you get the information. I have where some think the blue CPS will advance your timing and some think it retards your timing. I know on a gaser you can adjust your timing and change whhhen your plug fires, but since the diesel does not have a plug and fires on pressure I had to do a little research to find out for sure what was ment by changing the timing. It is what I thought, it is the changing of the firing pulse to the injector. Sooner advances timing and later retards timing.
I read a couple of different articles and here is some of what was in them. Advancing timing results in higher in cyclinder pressure and efficiency but also higher Nitrous Oxide emmissions. It can also smoke and become quite noisy. Too far before TDC would not only hurt the piston but make a louder than usual bang when it hit. Retarding the timing causes incomplete combustion, higher Paticulate Matter emissions, higher smoke, and feels sluggish. If retarted until after TDC it would the piston is going down and have very little impact, I do not think it would run if more than a couple of degrees since you would be losing the needed pressure.
You can see that the blue CPS more efficiency, more MPG, but quiter, its not sluggish. I have not seen anyone talk about emissions. As has been said several times maybe it is just a cleaner signal and makes up for the wrong gap, both from the stronger magnet.
I have also read that some will disconnect their battery before installing to speed up the computer learning curve. If you are using a programer do you need to download the stock program before disconnecting the battery or will thhe computer retaing your program?

 

I just got the Blue CPS and installed it yesterday, have not a chance to try it out yet. Everyone has been talking about a stronger magnet on the blue. I checked it out a little different then the rest, no socket, using a compass. I moved the CPS around the compass, rotated 90 degrees and tried it again. Both appeared to have in the center of the tip since that is where the compass pointed both ways. Then I used a wooden yard stick to see how far away the cps would affect the compass coming in at 180 degrees. The blacK started turning the needle started turing abouut 3.25" from the compass. The blue at 5" from the compass. It appears from this that the blue's magnet is about 1/2 again stronger than the stock. Unless it is due to a stronger pulse or some kind of built in circuit the timing should be the same, since the magnets appear to be in the same location.

 

That's a pretty good test to determine whether or not it would effect the timing. Nice work.