Superchips 6.0 Microtuner Thread
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From: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted by LaredoF350
Vic,
I talked to a sales person at Superchips a few days ago about the 1704 and I asked them if they had a h.p./torque vs. r.p.m. chart for the Towsafe and Economy power levels like they had for the High performance level on the website and the guy said no. Would you have any info like that or am I overstepping the boundaries of the questions you would like to field?
I talked to a sales person at Superchips a few days ago about the 1704 and I asked them if they had a h.p./torque vs. r.p.m. chart for the Towsafe and Economy power levels like they had for the High performance level on the website and the guy said no. Would you have any info like that or am I overstepping the boundaries of the questions you would like to field?
Tks,
Mark
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From: Lake Mary, FL
Originally Posted by 4x4Mark
I had the same question - posted it about 2 months ago. Anything on this Vic?
Tks,
Mark
Tks,
Mark
I'll see if I can get them to put it up there.
Shouldn't be a big deal.
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From: Clearwater, Fl
need up grade
Vic,
I took my truck in for fuel enjector and exhaust problem. got it back and wen tot install my super chip and now getting message need upgrade and two codes.
I will call tomorrow superchip...what do you think happen??...when I took it in they said I had the lastest flash...
I took my truck in for fuel enjector and exhaust problem. got it back and wen tot install my super chip and now getting message need upgrade and two codes.
I will call tomorrow superchip...what do you think happen??...when I took it in they said I had the lastest flash...
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Originally Posted by Gettingstarted
Vic,
I took my truck in for fuel enjector and exhaust problem. got it back and wen tot install my super chip and now getting message need upgrade and two codes.
I will call tomorrow superchip...what do you think happen??...when I took it in they said I had the lastest flash...
I took my truck in for fuel enjector and exhaust problem. got it back and wen tot install my super chip and now getting message need upgrade and two codes.
I will call tomorrow superchip...what do you think happen??...when I took it in they said I had the lastest flash...
All you need to do is send in your tuner to superchips (call first for an RA number)
You smply have been given a flash from Ford that is so new, it couldn't possibly be part of the 1704 database because you are probably among the first to get it.
Once I get your tuner back, that code will become a permanent part of the database and you will be ready to go.
Call superchips, they will update the tuner according to your new files (now captured by the tuner) at no charge.
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[QUOTE=Brian460]The only thing that I have noticed is when the engine is first started it wants to hesitate and cut out (0.0psi boost) during the first application of the throttle, even with the engine warmed up.
QUOTE]
Interesting- I noticed this too. Exactly as you say. It is definitely a SMCT thing because I input the tune while on a trip and it started doing it. It is an off-idle stumble when you first hit the gas after starting- but I've only noticed it when cold so far.
QUOTE]
Interesting- I noticed this too. Exactly as you say. It is definitely a SMCT thing because I input the tune while on a trip and it started doing it. It is an off-idle stumble when you first hit the gas after starting- but I've only noticed it when cold so far.
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[QUOTE=Tekrep]
This must be isolated to a couple codes under specific conditions.
If you can, please tell me the engine coolant temp (or where the needle is on the gauge), the outside air temp, and RPM where the stumble is occuring.
Are you high or low altitude? What is the typical humidity % and baro pressure in your area?
Originally Posted by Brian460
The only thing that I have noticed is when the engine is first started it wants to hesitate and cut out (0.0psi boost) during the first application of the throttle, even with the engine warmed up.
QUOTE]
Interesting- I noticed this too. Exactly as you say. It is definitely a SMCT thing because I input the tune while on a trip and it started doing it. It is an off-idle stumble when you first hit the gas after starting- but I've only noticed it when cold so far.
QUOTE]
Interesting- I noticed this too. Exactly as you say. It is definitely a SMCT thing because I input the tune while on a trip and it started doing it. It is an off-idle stumble when you first hit the gas after starting- but I've only noticed it when cold so far.
If you can, please tell me the engine coolant temp (or where the needle is on the gauge), the outside air temp, and RPM where the stumble is occuring.
Are you high or low altitude? What is the typical humidity % and baro pressure in your area?
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Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
This must be isolated to a couple codes under specific conditions.
If you can, please tell me the engine coolant temp (or where the needle is on the gauge), the outside air temp, and RPM where the stumble is occuring.
Are you high or low altitude? What is the typical humidity % and baro pressure in your area?
If you can, please tell me the engine coolant temp (or where the needle is on the gauge), the outside air temp, and RPM where the stumble is occuring.
Are you high or low altitude? What is the typical humidity % and baro pressure in your area?
However, after stopping for fuel on the way home (I won't talk about gas mileage- I was cruising at 85 or so), I floored it to get back on the highway (just love doing that) and it smoked very heavily (80% opacity) all the way up a long on-ramp – maybe ¼ mile. Usually, I see smoke only at initial takeoff. I was loaded with only about 1000 pounds of dirt bike (on a receiver carrier, not a trailer) and associated paraphernalia in the bed and cab, including me and my gear. Altitude may have been higher- maybe 3500, ft., but I live at 6500 feet and don’t usually see that much smoke.
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[QUOTE=Vic_Ferrari]
This must be isolated to a couple codes under specific conditions.
If you can, please tell me the engine coolant temp (or where the needle is on the gauge), the outside air temp, and RPM where the stumble is occuring.
Are you high or low altitude? What is the typical humidity % and baro pressure in your area?
Mine is with the temp gauge reading in the middle. Outside temp below 32F, winter humidity usaully around 40%, baro around 29-30. I am in Kansas City so that should be low altitude (around 1076ft.)
When it does this the X-monitor shows no boost 0.0psi, it will also do it in park and neutral, but just as with in drive only with the first application of the throttle. Hope this helps.
Thanks Vic
Originally Posted by Tekrep
This must be isolated to a couple codes under specific conditions.
If you can, please tell me the engine coolant temp (or where the needle is on the gauge), the outside air temp, and RPM where the stumble is occuring.
Are you high or low altitude? What is the typical humidity % and baro pressure in your area?
Mine is with the temp gauge reading in the middle. Outside temp below 32F, winter humidity usaully around 40%, baro around 29-30. I am in Kansas City so that should be low altitude (around 1076ft.)
When it does this the X-monitor shows no boost 0.0psi, it will also do it in park and neutral, but just as with in drive only with the first application of the throttle. Hope this helps.
Thanks Vic
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Should I reflash?
Originally Posted by 2cobras
I have an early 03' flash in my truck,I still have pilot injection.My truck runs perfect and has 9000 miles on it. Would it be better for me to get the new flash even if it runs perfect? I was hoping to buy a tuner.
The biggest change is turning off the Pilot Injection (the secret to a quiet idle). Turning it off eliminates the rough rolling idle present in some vehicles. Newer calibrations open the EGR valve at idle to reduce engine clatter at idle.
Many complain of power loss (especially from a standing start) and reduction in fuel economy AFTER this TSB reflash. Ford and Navistar (International) say that there's no appreciable difference in power or fuel economy but some owners continue to report otherwise.
"Newer" may not be "better" in this case. I say stick with what you've got and specifically tell your dealer NOT to reflash. They'll try to do it if you ever bring your vehicle in for warranty repair (general practice............load the latest and greatest program). Reflashing should be a last resort. Don't buy trouble!
Last edited by T-pacini; Jan 22, 2005 at 12:49 PM.
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Originally Posted by T-pacini
If you've got one of the earlier calibrations (pre 09/29/03), and your truck runs ok, I would recommend keeping the original calibration. Most in your situation who have had the TSB reflash (for minor problems) have regretted it and say that they would have lived with the old problems if they'd know what the newer calibrations do.
The biggest change is turning off the Pilot Injection (the secret to a quiet idle). Turning it off eliminates the rough rolling idle present in some vehicles. Newer calibrations open the EGR valve at idle to reduce engine clatter.
Many complain of power loss (especially from a standing start) and reduction in fuel economy. Ford and Navistar (International) say that there's no appreciable difference in power or fuel economy but some owners continue to report otherwise.
"Newer" may not be "better" in this case. I say stick with what you've got and specifically tell your dealer NOT to reflash. They'll try to do it if you ever bring your vehicle in for warranty repair (general practice............load the latest and greatest program). Reflashing should be a last resort. Don't buy trouble!
The biggest change is turning off the Pilot Injection (the secret to a quiet idle). Turning it off eliminates the rough rolling idle present in some vehicles. Newer calibrations open the EGR valve at idle to reduce engine clatter.
Many complain of power loss (especially from a standing start) and reduction in fuel economy. Ford and Navistar (International) say that there's no appreciable difference in power or fuel economy but some owners continue to report otherwise.
"Newer" may not be "better" in this case. I say stick with what you've got and specifically tell your dealer NOT to reflash. They'll try to do it if you ever bring your vehicle in for warranty repair (general practice............load the latest and greatest program). Reflashing should be a last resort. Don't buy trouble!
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Originally Posted by T-pacini
If you've got one of the earlier calibrations (pre 09/29/03), and your truck runs ok, I would recommend keeping the original calibration. Most in your situation who have had the TSB reflash (for minor problems) have regretted it and say that they would have lived with the old problems if they'd know what the newer calibrations do.
The biggest change is turning off the Pilot Injection (the secret to a quiet idle). Turning it off eliminates the rough rolling idle present in some vehicles. Newer calibrations open the EGR valve at idle to reduce engine clatter at idle.
Many complain of power loss (especially from a standing start) and reduction in fuel economy AFTER this TSB reflash. Ford and Navistar (International) say that there's no appreciable difference in power or fuel economy but some owners continue to report otherwise.
"Newer" may not be "better" in this case. I say stick with what you've got and specifically tell your dealer NOT to reflash. They'll try to do it if you ever bring your vehicle in for warranty repair (general practice............load the latest and greatest program). Reflashing should be a last resort. Don't buy trouble!
The biggest change is turning off the Pilot Injection (the secret to a quiet idle). Turning it off eliminates the rough rolling idle present in some vehicles. Newer calibrations open the EGR valve at idle to reduce engine clatter at idle.
Many complain of power loss (especially from a standing start) and reduction in fuel economy AFTER this TSB reflash. Ford and Navistar (International) say that there's no appreciable difference in power or fuel economy but some owners continue to report otherwise.
"Newer" may not be "better" in this case. I say stick with what you've got and specifically tell your dealer NOT to reflash. They'll try to do it if you ever bring your vehicle in for warranty repair (general practice............load the latest and greatest program). Reflashing should be a last resort. Don't buy trouble!
Often times the updated Ford flash will cause more sluggish performance and a drop in mileage, but once you add an aftermarket tune, the mileage come back (and usually surpasses where it was) and makes much greater power than any Ford flash.
.....so if you have a really old Ford flash and want to make more power, you often need to get the latest Ford program first.
Last edited by Vic_Ferrari; Jan 22, 2005 at 06:23 PM.