Understood,

If I do try the Econo file for towing this load, it would be to see if there is any improvement in fuel mileage only, because there's plenty of power in the Tow Safe mode for even the steepest of So Cal grades.

My X-Monitor has an audible alarm that I have set to 1150 deg F, so can take my foot out of it if need be.

 

WOW!

it sounds as if vic is telling us superchips will warranty our engines if they blow, or melt a turbo, as long as we do not exceed their recommended towing capacities!

this is great news!

thanks superchips!!!

ohh, and if i do melt a turbo, whom do i call at sc to get my new turbo?

 

i tow about a 4,500 to 5,000lb trailer everyday and no i have no gauges

 

No where did he say he coverd the engine...

 

ok vic i called superchips and they said w/ a 4 inch exhaust that is fine for towing he said the 6,000 is more like stock exhausts.

 

How does the Tow/Haul button play into the three perfomance files? Does it still act the same with the superchip? 04 6.0 auto.

 

Yeah.

He puts some serious words in my mouth right there!

I never said anything of the sort.

Your "Warranty" is between you and Ford. What you do to your truck you are responsible for...this is common sense. The 1704 is a safe product and well within the sane limits of tuning.

I'm speaking of the Superchips 1704 Warranty. It has a lifetime guarantee with proof of purchase. It is supported on an RA basis indefinitely unless you decide to
do something silly like stack it with an inline device (edge box, for instance) or tow a 20,000 LB trailer with the Perf program.

I've said this enough times, so why not once again:

If you have specific warranty related questions, call superchips directly.
I tune the Ford diesels, but I post here in my free time strictly to share technical inormation and for "entertainment" purposes.

 

I asked a question on page 35 of this thread (post # 872). I was wondering if you can read it and give me an answer please.

Thanks

 

Sorry, Joe...I missed your question.

Congrats on making a gear change to offset your tire change to keep the effective gearing close to stock. This will prevent excess load and (believe it or not) most likely save you some fuel.

You can run any program.

As the 1704 stated, you can pull up to 6,000 LBS with no gauges with the Performance program. However, I strongly recommend that everyone (stock or modified) has gauges on their turbo diesel truck.

Use common sense while driving at all times, and if you want the most power with the best possible fuel economy and low EGT, use the Economy file.
It's just a little slower than Perf, but get noticeably (reportedly from customers and with my testing) better mileage.

What many don't realize is that driving habits have a lot to do with EGT. It is possible to run your EGT through the roof on stock tuning if you are towing your trailer uphill at WOT.

He is getting cooler EGTts AND more power with the economy file at moderate throttle than he is with the stock program close to WOT! THis is consistent with testing and general customer feedback.

 

Do we have any F450, 550 or 650 (6.0L of course) owners here in Florida?

 

Thank you Vic. I look forward to running this tuner. I am fairly new to FORD products, as most I bought only Chevy but alway wanted a full spring vehicle. I am glad I found this site (by accident) thanks for all the great technical help!!!!!!!!!!

 

please understand it was a joke.... but your wording, a couple of times could EASILY lead one to believe you stand that much behicnd your product.

and......

i know you are reffering to the tuner itself and warranties to cover it.... however, how the heck could towing 20,000lbs with the performance file do ANYTHING to a tuner sitting back at the ranch? it is going to continue to work fine, thus no warranty statement needs to be made at all from SC....


and once again, it was made in jest...

 

It has plenty do to with that tuner sitting at the ranch.
The tuner is not just a piece of hardware sitting at the ranch. It is the media used to flash a program into your truck. Both the program and the tuner are supported.
The real "product" you bought is not only the tuner, but the program the tuner gives your truck. Even when you leave the tuner at home, the "product" is still with you and in your truck.

The 1704 is supported on an RA basis for not only hardware issues but also calibration issues.

Lets say you install the performance program and tow a 20,000 LB trailer (something you should never do) and the EGT's go sky high.
If you call superchips and tell them there is a calibration problem because your EGT's got too high, they will simply tell you to follow the directions. Those tow limits are there for a reason.

If you install the performance file and tow 4,000 LBS and run into a tuning issue, superchips will give you an RA to look at the files and make changes if necessary at no charge (with proof of purchase). This has nothing to do with the tuner itself, but the actual calibration.
If the tuner itself fails to operate (and it wasn't because it was dropped in the pool) it will also be given an RA and resolved at no charge (with proof of purchase).

Once again, I'm in here speaking on my own behalf. If you have specific questions regarding warranty (whether it be your Ford warranty or the warranty on your tuner), then you should call superchips. I'm not in a position to give these types of answers nor will I.

Please, no more questions on this subject because they will remain unanswered. It is not my place to discuss warranty issues.

 

How does the Tow/Haul button play into the three perfomance files? Does it still act the same with the superchip? 04 6.0 auto.

 

Please scan the thread before asking questions as this one has been answered very recently.

The tow haul button reverts to separate shift tables which are also tuned.
You can use the tow haul button with all 3 files and it will work properly.