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Old Apr 12, 2022 | 08:48 PM
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I would have thought the machinist would have used like a 3" to 4" face mill rather than what looks like a 1/2" end mill.
Surface grinder would have done nice work there!
 
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 03:02 PM
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So if all my piston cooling jets look good with none loose and no cracks on the brazing, do I still have to have them welded? Is this a thing where if they haven't failed by now they likely wont fail in the future?
 
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 03:13 PM
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What? Someone told you to cool your jets? Well you tell them all your statements so far are FTN-Approved!! Oh wait…


I’d say get them welded anyway for peace of mind.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 04:29 PM
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So if all my piston cooling jets look good with none loose and no cracks on the brazing, do I still have to have them welded? Is this a thing where if they haven't failed by now they likely wont fail in the future?
If you think you want them welded, source some welded ones...probably cheaper than having the OEM ones taken apart, cleaned and then welded.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 04:34 PM
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https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/welded-piston-oil-jets/
 
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Old Apr 13, 2022 | 04:51 PM
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If you think you want them welded, source some welded ones...probably cheaper than having the OEM ones taken apart, cleaned and then welded.
I've already cleaned mine with a mini hot tank and oil bath (used for all the small parts and fasteners), so now just a question of if it's cheaper to have them welded or buying the RR ones.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 10:09 AM
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I've already cleaned mine with a mini hot tank and oil bath (used for all the small parts and fasteners), so now just a question of if it's cheaper to have them welded or buying the RR ones.
I was think more of getting the brazing off prior to welding them. But, I'm not much of a welder....I'm a better grinder!
 
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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 11:48 AM
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When in doubt, JB Weld.
 
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Originally Posted by Dan V
I was think more of getting the brazing off prior to welding them. But, I'm not much of a welder....I'm a better grinder!
That's a major step! Welding over non-steel doesn't work so well....coming from a once-certified welder who HATES grinding.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 03:52 PM
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Shoot that's a good point. I'll have to think on how to proceed.

So an update on the 19 dollar Amazon "Cardone" reman pump:





This pump is a bit weird because with the machined mounting surface and casting style it looks like a Motorcraft/Alliant pump that had the casting mark ground off, puzzling because the pump I ordered was supposed to be a 97 style pump. To compound things the instructions say "Driveworks" and when I called Cardone they said they don't make this pump anymore. Seal says "Torch" which seems to be a Chinese company.

It seems if you want anything close to a US made you'd have to find a Haldex RW1767X which is a reman actually done in the US. However they don't have any cores to build up at the moment so you can't find their pumps.

​​​​​​​Anyway, seal doesn't squeak and shaft rotation is smooth on this cheapo pump, so I'll probably use it.
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Old Apr 15, 2022 | 02:37 AM
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Pump looks good! Just for fun take a straight edge across the mounting surface, see how flat it is.

Would it be cray-cray to just hit the jets with a torch and a chonk of solder like your home water heater?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2022 | 06:45 AM
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I’d run that water pump. Catastrophic failure is extremely unlikely and failures rarely require urgent attention (slow leak from seal gives you plenty of time to return home from a road trip). I can change a water pump in 45min in a parking lot if I had to.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2022 | 07:10 AM
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In some cases leaking water pump may lead to rebuilding an oil cooler,while you're in there..
And end up with a cracked front cover..
 
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Old Apr 15, 2022 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by aawlberninf350
Pump looks good! Just for fun take a straight edge across the mounting surface, see how flat it is.

Would it be cray-cray to just hit the jets with a torch and a chonk of solder like your home water heater?
Furnace brazing has a much higher melting point than solder. I'd be more inclined to just flux and reflow the braze. How common is a oil cooling jet failure?...I get that nobody wants to be the "one" but, I'm thinking the failure rater is pretty low. Or, for $90, get the welded ones from RiffRaff.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2022 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by aawlberninf350
Pump looks good! Just for fun take a straight edge across the mounting surface, see how flat it is.
Continuing with this line of thought, perhaps you should stone the thermostat interface flat @PriusLover . Have you got a billet thermostat housing?
 
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