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Old Aug 17, 2024 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by F350towing
Starting to see the merits of a fuel tank sump with a bigger pre-pump filter.

I’m leery about the single centre fastener for clamping pressure to seal the O-ring to the tank, but see that is what you have installed. Also has to have a drain plug for periodic let’s get the crap out of the bottom of the tank.

If I go this route, would also like to install a glass ( read clear )water separator as a pre filter so that I can visually check to see what is going into the filter.

I don’t know if I’m thinking overkill, but I don’t want to chase this down again the next time I choose the wrong fuel station.
here is the sump kit I installed, I bought a different one, and did NOT trust the thing to stay leak free, and then I saw this one being installed by AutoMedic Garage on his personal Excursion, and he provided a link to it.

it is supplied with the FASS fuel system if that makes any difference.

good choice, it is solid as a rock...
you have to Torque the Center bolt to 17 ft lbs, IIRC


FASS certified sump, no leaks, has a Single Bolt in the middle FASS certified sump, no leaks, has a Single Bolt in the middle

just noticed that link is bad, this one is good.
Amazon Amazon


I did NOT want the Return link sump kit, why mess with that?
the Factory Return Line works just fine, if it ain't broke, don't go Fixing Something That Ain't Broke.





oh,
do you see that tiny little silver thing to the left of the Center Bolt?

that is a Drain hole, it takes an Allen Wrench to remove it.
but you got to use a good sealer on it, mine leaked the 1st time, even with the proper sealant.....
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Old Aug 18, 2024 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by John in OkieLand
here is the sump kit I installed, I bought a different one, and did NOT trust the thing to stay leak free, and then I saw this one being installed by AutoMedic Garage on his personal Excursion, and he provided a link to it.

just noticed that link is bad, this one is good.


https://www.amazon.com/Airdog-Fuelab.../dp/B0B7X5PMWX








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They actually had to cut a hole in your skid plate to install that sump. Do you know what they did with the original fuel feed line. Where did they plug it off?
Thanks for that link John.



If I ever decide to change my mind and go to a sump style at least I already have enough 30r9 hose. 10feet cost me $76.00. I about choked when he told me but had already cut the length off the spool.

Waiting on the fuel filter kit, and the FPR. Tomorrow I’ll finish up on the tank install. It’s back in but still have the fill, and vent hose to install. Was contemplating pulling the fuel bowl to thoroughly clean before the FPR kit but think I’m gonna save a few hrs and leave it in place.

Read on a thread (Powerstroke Nation) that there is actually a screen inside the fuel pump. Guy said it non serviceable and can plug with larger debris and cause low FP even though the “pump” is still working properly. Be damned if I can find it again to re-read and link here for future reference.

At any rate I’m going to backflush the fuel pump and see what comes out of it. Figure what the hell… it can’t hurt, can it?
 
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Old Aug 18, 2024 | 06:35 AM
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Yes, SSJ has described the in pump screen. He said it doesn’t come out but sometimes you can get lucky by cleaning it with shots of brake cleaner. I wonder if it could help flush out if you wired the pump backwards to a battery and put the original output into a jug of fuel to truly back flush it?
 
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Old Aug 18, 2024 | 08:36 AM
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Never run a pump backwards. You may hear satanic verses if you do.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2024 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RacinJasonWV
Yes, SSJ has described the in pump screen. He said it doesn’t come out but sometimes you can get lucky by cleaning it with shots of brake cleaner. I wonder if it could help flush out if you wired the pump backwards to a battery and put the original output into a jug of fuel to truly back flush it?
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Wired backwards. I LIKE it. Gonna give it a shot. I was going to use air from the fuel bowl but this sound much easier.

Use it as a transfer pump in reverse to flush it out.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2024 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Never run a pump backwards. You may hear satanic verses if you do.
I’ll be sure to put the blood from my knuckles over the doors before I engage negative energy. Hopefully the evil spirits will passover.

Woke up to pouring rain so waiting for the puddles in the driveway to drain before headed outside. I opted to keep the truck outside for this job.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2024 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Never run a pump backwards. You may hear satanic verses if you do.
I’m assuming the second part is a joke. 😬

But is there a real reason to not run it backwards?
 
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Old Aug 18, 2024 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RacinJasonWV
I’m assuming the second part is a joke. 😬
Go play stairway to heaven backwards and listen.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2024 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tpayne621
Go play stairway to heaven backwards and listen.
Did that in my teens. It was weird, a bit of a stretch to hear what was claimed. And when played forward was clearly normal english iirc.

I wonder how many years of people’s lives were wasted playing songs backwards listening for hidden messages.

IMO there are enough negative songs when you play them the right way.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2024 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RacinJasonWV
I’m assuming the second part is a joke. 😬

But is there a real reason to not run it backwards?
All of it was a joke.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2024 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by F350towing
They actually had to cut a hole in your skid plate to install that sump. Do you know what they did with the original fuel feed line. Where did they plug it off?
Thanks for that link John.
I too, just about choked when buying the proper hose, that crap is priced as high as an ounce of Gold.

the Skid Plate hole, was cut by my son, using a brand new Ryobi tiny little grinder, with the thinnest wheel available.
the Ryobi is great for that work, as it has a Depth Gauge setting to prevent it from going too deep and ruining the Plastic gas tank.

there is about a 1/4 inch spacing between the tank and the Skid plate.

PJ cut the OEM fuel line just aft of the Fuel Pump, and ran the new all rubber fuel hose direct to the pump suction line, I bought special fuel line hose clamps, Worm Gear clamps are not good enough, they leak, and we can prove it.

This is the OEM Return Line, it worked for 20+ years, we left it as it, why reinvent the wheel?



Return line worked for 20+ years, why change it? : :



this is where the hole was cut in the skid plate : :
the hole saw drill bit, cut the hole in the tank,
it drained diesel for over 20 minutes





Sump position is directly inside that circle. : :




this is a better view of the Sump and the line we used, the Sump uses a 1/2" fitting, we reduced that to 5/16" for the fuel line to the pump.
 
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Parts arrived today.

Have the FPR and the screw on style filter and base.

Couldn’t find a Racor PS 120-02 that was reasonably priced, and readily available. Figure I will go to a Baldwin or a Donaldson for the next filter. This one is rated as a 2 micron, and I’m going to leave the brand new Wix 33972 in line as well.

Yesterday was a forced day of rest. Read,the wife wanted time with me and I had to choose between her or the truck. Happy wife happy life.

Tomorrow is the backflush on the pump and figuring out the mounting bracket for the filter. Have to source some 1/2 to 5/16 barbed fittings for the filter mount as well.



 
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Looks like same base that came with my pre pump kit. I run a Baldwin bf1212 with it.
 
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Got my fittings today.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2024 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by F350towing
Parts arrived today.

Have the FPR and the screw on style filter and base.

Couldn’t find a Racor PS 120-02 that was reasonably priced, and readily available. Figure I will go to a Baldwin or a Donaldson for the next filter. This one is rated as a 2 micron, and I’m going to leave the brand new Wix 33972 in line as well.

Yesterday was a forced day of rest. Read,the wife wanted time with me and I had to choose between her or the truck. Happy wife happy life.

Tomorrow is the backflush on the pump and figuring out the mounting bracket for the filter. Have to source some 1/2 to 5/16 barbed fittings for the filter mount as well.


So the plan is the Wix 33972, then the 2 micron filter above, then fuel pump, then the OEM filter in the fuel bowl?
 
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