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Old May 25, 2022 | 06:48 AM
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several fellas use the lift gate window (upper 1/2) for the back quarter. This way there is an open/close, righ sized back. i doubt you will be doing this as the bars are there, U may want total access but ur mock up reminded me of it. I wanna find a '70's/80s mini truck slider that fits instead. Migin it in is easier than finding one to match.
 
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Old May 25, 2022 | 07:13 AM
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Yes with the roll cage down bars, a solid back window is not an option. But it caged my spare tire nicely (now removed for better reward vision).

Notice the behind the seat cross bar it taller than the front just a bit. That way I did not have to worry about hitting my head. Or it being inside a square.

Had to modify the bikini top to fit. I cut slits and added velcro closure.

See how both seats are pushed back a little bit.

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Old May 25, 2022 | 09:33 AM
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mine is 1/2 cab now (have 3 tops but this is 8 yrs worth). Damn thing came in '82 for 250$ total (S/H included) w/bulkhead all the way from Jeff's to MA.
I appreciate the links to the blk top (& it's details).

I see now how lill U changed the tire mount. @ 1st pic I said "WoW he's done some big changes" but see it more an adapt. It
will B awhile B4 U change tire sz again?
On CB I guy showed the removal of sides from a wagon top. Solid metal, full "bikini" roof - bolted to roll bars...
Like the back of 1/2 cab above he left a flange for pop-in/out canvas/windows.

BTW what do U use for roll bars? DOM? what is inside/outside dementions in inches - how thick is the tube wall?

Thnx, all ways lub dem pic !
 
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Old May 25, 2022 | 06:46 PM
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I used what ever the guy used to build the custom roll cage for the 79 Bronco tuff truck did. I took it out the 79 Bronco and made it work in the 71.






Sorry not sure about the tube specs. I have a left over piece I can mic tomorrow.
 
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Old May 25, 2022 | 07:12 PM
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no mic needed. I was wondering how thick it was for safety. They say not to use 'pipe'
but the DOM spec.ed stuff. From memory duz it look 3/8th? and 2 inch around?
I C it very seldom
AND
from the outside, at distance. One guy just finished an open wheel (looks real Indy-like) to
join his 2 tube chassy stock cars. He's actually doin really well and expects to get picked up by the pro circut
to drive the national events). I see his from afar too.
Tnx,
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BTW: the green looks like the 2nd gen bronk. Moss Bros were my fav off rd team. They had one for awhile (maroone?)
 
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Old May 25, 2022 | 11:01 PM
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So when I was looking into buying the green 79 Bronco, I asked the owner if the cage was built with DOM processed material, he said yes. The guy ran that Bronco in actual competitions, so he had to go thru a tech insp of some sort. It is not thin wall muffler pipe, or run of the mill iron pipe for sure.

So when my buddy that helped me build it (the guy under the welding hood). I first off asked him to look at it, to make sure it is the correct material to use. He said it was good to go to use as roll cage material. He is also a Monster truck builder, owner, and driver. I trust Alan's experience and his welding capabilities.

Thanks for looking out for my well being. I am going to try and get you the specs anyway.
 
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Old May 26, 2022 | 08:01 AM
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I C it on-line when searchin out for my own need.
We have talked abt 'must B frame tied" . DOM - same.
I have several 'learnind disabilities'. One is w/math/numbers.
Wall thickness in fractional inches (or even decemals) can work for
me as can 'OD' diamiter inces. I am lookin for the smallest I can find for cage
& one bumper (needs to miss a sno plow yet still hold a pto operated post-hole
auger). I may use 1, 1.5 or 2 inch DOM. Back is step'n tow frm a toy p/u.

Ask ur bud abt the Moss Bros & desert truck running. Pretty cool story. I watch from
the sidelines as more work related, less rec oriented use (for now)~
 
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Old May 26, 2022 | 08:15 AM
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As I understand it, the smaller the DOM processed tubing (that is as strong as all other) is going to be $$. And remember that to really protect your nugget it needs to be connected to the frame, and not just bolted to the floor. This guy has a cage and you can see it, did he have passengers? They sell a "family" cage.

Windshield frame is not structural.



I use to have a show bar like this.

I gladly took it out.






 
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Old May 26, 2022 | 10:51 AM
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"...connected to the frame..."
yup, as I stated (#604 looks like they all do) we discussed manya X.
None of the pic seem to have this, or even a non-frame tied. I think, like
the 3 wheeler - they should B banned (loan either 1 & feel the pain of a bud
injured by false trust). Many guys use the "show bar" who do not go off rd. They C
what the windshield is, the B pillar, etc. & install, BUT this is hazardous as 1) false security,
2) deadly off rd. I have seen some of the 'upside downers' U publish here. I have seen them
w/'show bars' through the floor bds sticking up above. I am not happy w/all the bronks being sold
@ re-dick-U-loss prices'n no frame tied cage/bars.
 
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Old May 26, 2022 | 11:24 AM
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Gosh darn short wheel base vehicles are so doggon Squirrely on pavement.
One good thing about a show-bar or roll-bar: _ _ _ something overhead is better than nothing.

Nice work on your modified bronc top and rear window panel.
I spent 18-summers running the Rubicon jeep trail in a cj-7. Properly plated, any roll bar is better than none for sure.
 
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Yes I remember the old school TV adds showing Jeeps rolling over easy. About any short wheel base vehicle can get in trouble, if not properly operated. X2 some thing beats nothing when you are upside down.

I got the top already cut up, I am in the redesign dept to shorten it even more.
 
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Old May 26, 2022 | 01:50 PM
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I'd disagree as it lends false confidence.
If ur own, U can pay the costs (of accidents or
roll overs) but like my 3wheeler example, lending it
w/o fair warning is not good. Y not do as we suggest.
It is just nother step or 2...

(adda lift, some bouncy tires...
 
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Old May 26, 2022 | 03:41 PM
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Ok so to get this thread back on track, I own a 71 Bronco and I off road it.



 
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Old May 26, 2022 | 04:27 PM
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seems pretty 1 track (bronks) ta me~
 
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Well there is a highly modified Bronco following me in the middle picture. I multi trac with multi Bronco's. The 9 year old grandson doing a little flexing.

Poser shot.

The Bruggy....


 
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