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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 05:34 PM
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I am just trying to get the p/s set up to working right and be dependable. Hence the possible hydraulic ram assist route. I am not ready to go high steer and cross over, and ride that snowball of follow on mods down the hill. Remember this suppose to be a thrifty project, and not a money pit.

"Kiser Riser" to get the trac bar up a bit and give me a better spot to attach the static end of the ram. That is the research plan so far anyway.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 05:42 PM
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it's all out of my reach, glad U can show the (one) way
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 06:00 PM
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Once I figure out a quality an aFORDdable route you know I will post it up.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2020 | 05:53 PM
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Well I sourced a replacement OEM cap (just to have on hand) and I got the cracked one removed. NO sign of anything hitting it from the inside of the cap. So not sure what cracked it. Driving fwd with the repair/upgrade route research.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2020 | 05:57 PM
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Some advice from a fellow FTE member. PDF is a walk thru with pics on a hyd assist mod. Word doc is a Saginaw p/s pump mod.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2020 | 07:58 PM
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wrds from the wise

Originally Posted by 77&79F250
Well... not sure what cracked it...
"​​​​​​welp, ​musta been old" is what the wise xxxx round here usually say when seein me roll up...
(20 yr ol chebbies abound)
 
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Well I am at least putting the aftermarket HD end cap in there, to start out. After a talk with the local machine shop tomorrow, I will start to document the modification plan.

https://diy4x.com/product.php?productid=17691&page=1
 
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Old Dec 15, 2020 | 08:31 PM
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no 4x6x2x4x or whatever that power box is?
U use a gm power steer box (~150$)?
In or out side the frame?
 
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I believe it is an actual early Bronco p/s box, for sure a Saginaw style, 3 bolt mount, outside the frame.

Here is a good p/s box swap info place. West Coast Broncos
 
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oh, it is that "4x4x2". I thought U hada trick w/a heavy gm of some sort.
Part of this is cuz an above pic which makes 1end look bulbous & not very ford like.
Another due to the 'end cap' supply co verbiage abt gm cap.
OK, thnx~
 
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I measured the end cap that came out, it is 3". The one that I am getting from Diy4x is a 3" also. They offer 2 different sizes.
 
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A while back I received the DIY4X 3" cap, it fits perfect diameter wise. Going to be a challenge to get it in there with a new o-ring for sure. Had to get a little "lip"
machined off the inside to get full movement of the piston. I also got my p/s box spare top cap drilled and tapped for 3/8".

Also got a "Kiser Riser" in the mail the other day...Google it. I got it to relocate the trac bar connection point (on the axle end) (up) and give me a place for one end of the ram to attach to.

 
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Redneck Ram

Redneck Ram.
So the hi pressure line still comes from the PS pump to the PS box. I'm not sure how the bx is connected to the 2 fittings on a hydralic ram (got em on my sno plow). I C frm the info U sent the DYI line/drill out on the top (U describe a 3/8 incher above) plate/cover.
Gee, I must B dyalestic.
I could not visualize the hydro boost lines either when 1st exposed to the benifit. Sketches all ways "do it" 4 me. Is there one on-line somewhere (the last link or w/whatever, did not have a whole view system).What dia/length ram do U have?
 
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Redneck Ram.
So the hi pressure line still comes from the PS pump to the PS box. I'm not sure how the bx is connected to the 2 fittings on a hydralic ram (got em on my sno plow). I C frm the info U sent the DYI line/drill out on the top (U describe a 3/8 incher above) plate/cover.
Gee, I must B dyalestic.
I could not visualize the hydro boost lines either when 1st exposed to the benifit. Sketches all ways "do it" 4 me. Is there one on-line somewhere (the last link or w/whatever, did not have a whole view system).What dia/length ram do U have?
Here is a 2 inch bore 8 inch stroke. Which gives it more power but slower response. https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...125-in-rod-dia
Here is a 1.5 inch bore 8 inch stroke. https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...e-1-in-rod-dia

 
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No the steering box caps (end and top) are removed drilled/tapped and then the lines attach there and go to the ram ports. A very good video on it.

DIY4X ram kit. https://diy4x.com/product.php?produc...cat=249&page=1

Diagram below.... right turn pressure goes out the end cap port and to one port on the ram via a line. Left turn pressure goes out the top cap and to the ram other side port.

West Texas Offroad https://www.westtexasoffroad.com/ will drill and tap the actual box. I like being able to swap the caps in case I break another box.


 
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