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No offense, but someone who is getting 4 tons Superduty for grocery-getter has to have something wrong with his perspectives.
See, this is where the proverbial **** hits the fan... He did NOT say "grocery getter".
Some of us, me included, NEED a truck enough that we need a Superduty, but do not NEED it 100% of the time. It can become a "daily driver", because the wife has the car, and our truck is standing there all alone unused and we have to "do stuff".
If I needed a serious tow-machine, sure, I'd have a diesel. Maybe.
See, this is where the proverbial **** hits the fan... He did NOT say "grocery getter".
Some of us, me included, NEED a truck enough that we need a Superduty, but do not NEED it 100% of the time. It can become a "daily driver", because the wife has the car, and our truck is standing there all alone unused and we have to "do stuff".
If I needed a serious tow-machine, sure, I'd have a diesel. Maybe.
As someone who balances industrial fans ( some as large as 6' dia) as part of my job, I can tell you with all certainty it will affect the balance of the fan...
iF i dd my truck and use it to run all my errands i only burn 40-55 bucks a week. 2600 a year in fuel. if i go buy a cobalt or a focus its like 14k for one new thats 5.3 years worth of fuel plus i still have to put fuel in the econo car plus insurance.
in the summer i hardly drive the truck it sat for 2 months strait this summer while i drove the camaro. some how i manage to burn far more fuel in that. lol
Comparing apples to apples, where is new $60,000 truck in this calculation?
Than compare how much time you saved taking camaro instead of truck.
I drive 550 miles to Las Vegas several times a year. 8 hr in a car, 11-12 in Superduty.
It makes huge difference coming to Vegas in good condition at 4 pm, or exhausted at 8 PM
Comparing apples to apples, where is new $60,000 truck in this calculation?
Than compare how much time you saved taking camaro instead of truck.
I drive 550 miles to Las Vegas several times a year. 8 hr in a car, 11-12 in Superduty.
It makes huge difference coming to Vegas in good condition at 4 pm, or exhausted at 8 PM
my point was not to compare my truck to a cobalt. but to make the point for some people that buying a second car just for fuel efficiency really isn't worth it. your better dding your truck sometimes. And yes you could buy a cheaper used car but then you have to worry about putting parts in it and its a gamble. you could easily be putting 1000 plus in parts a year into a cheap used car.
Again some people need the trucks for occasional use and it just make sense to use them to dd in and run errands. to say that you should go buy another car for fuel efficiency doesn't make sense.
yes my camaro is far more fuel efficient. yes during the summer i don't use my truck that much unless its towing something. there was a point in august and September after i sold the business my truck didn't move for 2 months strait. after i thought about it i though yah that probably not good so i used it a little more. I drive the truck 1200 miles to pick up cars trust me i know how much gas this thing burns on a trip. 1200 miles in the cobalt 130-150 the same trip in my truck under tow about 300-350.
I have my truck simply because I do use a truck, and more so the rest of my extended family who doesn't have a truck.
I do not use my truck as a daily driver, but more as a weekend warrior. I have a 4cyl contour as my DD, but I drive my truck anytime I'm not driving to home or back, that includes 5 minute tasks to the grocery store. Over the holidays, it'll get driven alot. No work until Jan 3rd, whooo hooo.
I drive 550 miles to Las Vegas several times a year. 8 hr in a car, 11-12 in Superduty.
It makes huge difference coming to Vegas in good condition at 4 pm, or exhausted at 8 PM
I think one problem here is that you're using your F450 dually, dump truck as a comparison for using a SD for a daily driver. For me, its definitely a different story in my F250.
We've taken my '04 to the beach every summer for the past 3 years. The trip used to take around 9 hours in my wife's Taurus. The same trip in my truck takes around 9 hours.
And, believe it or not, traveling in it is quite pleasant. Sure, it rides like a truck, but we certainly aren't any more exhausted after 9 hours than we would've been in the car.
I think one problem here is that you're using your F450 dually, dump truck as a comparison for using a SD for a daily driver. For me, its definitely a different story in my F250..
As far as I know my 10,000 lb dumptruck offers the same mpg what F250 with V10 does
Than on serious note -everybody has different economy. My car insurance goes about $240 a year. Used cars cost a little to register and buying diesel sedans I usually sell them for more, than I bought them for.
I will not even rub, that driving Superduty gives you a fashion status, but driving Mercedes gives you social status.
I will not even rub, that driving Superduty gives you a fashion status, but driving Mercedes gives you social status.
Sure, but many of us don't drive a status symbol. I'm just as content driving my old Ford Contour grocery getter as I am my truck.
Some like driving a truck because of the image, others drive it because they like the security. Others like the way they drive and how high up they ride, and some of us simply like the utility of having a vehicle that can pull anything we can hook up to.
There is no bad reason to drive a Super Duty. If it makes you happy, drive one!
I will not even rub, that driving Superduty gives you a fashion status, but driving Mercedes gives you social status.
im going to say this varies greatly depending on where you live. in Virgina i get complements on my truck. In new york i get called a red neck. As a mater of fact the guys in new york call it a red neck Cadillac. driving a prius is a fashion statement not a f350 in ny.
the only people making a fashion statement out of them are the ones with the 10foot lift where you need a ladder to get in.
Others like the way they drive and how high up they ride, and some of us simply like the utility of having a vehicle that can pull anything we can hook up to.
There is no bad reason to drive a Super Duty. If it makes you happy, drive one!
I think there are lot of bad reasons. How many SD owners never pull anything heavier that minivan could handle?
How many 4WD owners never go off road?
Years ago I had coworker who bought 4WD for his commute drive. He was putting 45,000 miles a year commuting only, but he needed 4WD because "he owns a house with yard and need a pickup for yard hauling"
His yard was 1/32 acre. Those were the years when gas was less than a buck, but I quickly calculated that getting econobox for his commute would save him enough to rent a Cadillac for yard hauling and Royce Rolls for family vacations.
Don't think he gave it another tough
As far as I know my 10,000 lb dumptruck offers the same mpg what F250 with V10 does
Than on serious note -everybody has different economy. My car insurance goes about $240 a year. Used cars cost a little to register and buying diesel sedans I usually sell them for more, than I bought them for.
I will not even rub, that driving Superduty gives you a fashion status, but driving Mercedes gives you social status.
I'm not talking about mileage. I was replying to your comment that you are "exhausted" after taking a long trip in your SD, and that it took 4 extra hours to get there. I can only guess the reasons would be because the F450's low gearing limits your speed and that its heavier suspension somehow wears you out more..?
Seems to me you are lumping all SD's into the same category as your dump truck when it comes to using them as a daily driver. If my truck was a F450 dump truck, I probably wouldn't take it on a family vacation either.