Yes I had the roll-out adjusted for the larger tires. I verified it with GPS. Speeds should be accurate or at least really close.

Been up and down that part of I-77 a few times. That would be a nice climb. A little impracticable for back-to-back comparisons unless everyone had similar trailers hooked at the same time but it would be fun.

 

If I'm ever out that way I will let you know. That sounds like a fun pull.

 

I have driven that I77 several times, it is a good one for sure.

 

Pretty sure every truck there was either 3.55 or 3.73.

Non of the gears you stated are even used by Ford.

 

He's talking about the first gear of the TRANNY.

 

Yep, he was. I was busy with something else while catching up on this thread and did not catch that while I was reading his post. Sorry about that. Thanks for catching my goof Art.

 

Awesome videos for sure!

One thing I have learned in towing thru the Rockies, Big Horns, Appalachians (btw there are some awesome 5 mile long 7% grades on I-64!), Smokies and more grades in New Mexico, Arizona and Utah that I cannot recall...is that with the V10 and the 4R100 lots of driver throttle control is required to keep the V10 in her powerband. In my experiences towing with both 3.73's and 4.30's I have found that 3200 RPMs is the MINIMUM RPMs where the motor really comes alive...also I have learned that the 4.30's is a KILLER rear end gear behind the V10...

My first jaunt thru the Rockies I had 3.73's towing 7500#'s and on serious grades above 7000' if I lost speed due to slower traffic it was a real challenge to regain the speed UNLESS I manually placed the gear shift in 1st gear and FORCED the RPM's up to 5000 and then manually shifted into 2nd at that point...going above 5000 RPMs you run into the fuel cutoff point on the V10 (there is no redline per say)...and if you allowed the stock tune (I did not have my 5-star tunes at that point) to shift it would do so early and then 2nd gear wouldn't have enough RPM's to continue pulling...but manually holding it to 5000 in 1st would drop into 2nd and allow it to PULL like a mother up a steep grade at altitude.

My point is that I have towed a lot with this V10 thru some serious mountain passes and other steep grades and have played a lot with different RPM scenarios...and now that I have 4.30's and tow 9000#'s it is a lot easier to climb hills with the 4R100...and thru lots of trial and error figuring out this V10...I can now attack hills without much effort...BUT it does take some getting used to...I am planning another trek to the Rockies this July...a 4500 mile 3 week towing trip!!!

Man you could really hear when the V10 was pulling in her band...but if you let her get out of her band (i.e. below 3200)...she will back pedal on you as I could see was happening by the MPH call outs...plus your larger tires really hurt you too from a gearing perspective as you know...

All in all...THANKS for sharing this video...I gave you guys some reps...watching all those combos is pretty cool...THANKS again!

If you want a 2V V10 with 4.30's in your next pulloff...let me know...I'm over in Fort Wayne and may be able to make it...depending on time of year...looks like fun!...I've got a buddy over in Dublin that has a 3V V10 in his F350 and has the 5R110 trans...I think he has 3.73's though...

Great info guys and thanks to all of those that participated...real world is always so much more interesting than most of the fantasy island BS in the near 700 pages in this thread!!!...

Joe

 

Which diesels weren't stock? they couldn't have been modded much or they would have done better than they did. I would like to know the mods on which trucks.

If it doesn't make difference, why use it?

I'm not trying to pick a fight, but if I brought a tuned 99 stroke, it would run all over that V10 (I am not a V10 hater, but it has to be as fair as possible)

Your truck did very well, especially once the rpms were able to get up.

I am going to diagnose some issues on a 06 V10 tommorow, so I will soon have some first hand expierence.

 

I keep thinking about this comment. The 2006 6.0 did way better up the hill than yours. But if you take a 1994.5 PSD, put an exhaust and programmer on it (same exact mods as you), it will outpull you. So keep that in mind.

 

The thing to remember was this has always been a friendly get together of fellow Ford truck lovers, taking advantage if a hill and a loaded trailer to test their trucks. The only qualification you needed to have was to show up. (They let a dodge pull!) Other than the dodge breaking something, all the Ford guys, gas and diesel, did quite well. Yes, there are some guys with some heavily modded diesels that could have done a lot better, and I bet if one of them showed up, he would have pulled. But, from what I gather from the times they have done this, it has always been just a bunch of buddies getting together and having some fun testing their trucks. I hope to make it there one of these days myself. It looks like a lot of fun!!

 

Don't bet on it. 90cc injectors leave a lot to be desired compared to 140cc injectors in the later model SD's. I own both, so I have some experience in that area.

 

Well until we see it, we can argue where they will be, but... I will promise you, the v10 will not beat the 1994.5/1995 PSD like the 6.0 beat the 2000 v10.

 

I would have loved to see how a 2V with 4.30 and a 3V would have done.

It would have been great to see a highly tuned 7.3 make a run. Supposedly there was a guy coming that had a fire breathing 7.3 but he never showed up. Would have loved to see one on of these engines can really do.

I’m sure a highly modded PSD 7.3 could have done better with then my V10. I’m laying down at most 8-10% over stock as far as power. I don’t have an exact number but some basic acceleration tests I done support this. Bring a 1994.5 PSD with s similar bump in power and I don’t think the results would favor the PSD vs my stock V10. However you get crazy and bump up the tuner to make crazy power and I’m sure the PSD would walk all over my V10 right up until it went boom because it didn’t have the proper supporting mods.

Exactly! I don’t think anyone treated it as a competition nor would I want anyone to. It's about seeing what your truck and other can really do and to BS with other Super Duty enthusiasts.

 

Wow. I spend the day on the road and things get busy.

I believe I was the only idiot who didn't roll off for the last corner. For your truck, my truck, and Matt's truck I attempted a best-speed run at least once for video.

That's not to say that it was necessarily the smartest thing to do on a blind corner on a public road, but it was fun.

Mike's truck not only sounded the best, but also felt the best. It was down on power but that V10 is SNAPPY compared to even the best diesels. No turbo lag, just instant-on power. Like flipping a switch!

I've climbed that grade many a time, it's one of the worst on the eastern half of the US. The problem with this grade is getting enough weight to challenge the newer trucks. My 435 HP Kenworth could make that hill at 40 MPH at 75,000 lbs. I'd think anything 6.0L or newer would have no problem dragging 11,580 lbs up that hill above the speed limit.

We need to find a bigger trailer!

 

In the videos it looks any more speed may be a little hairy on that curvy 2 lane road with close to 12,000# pushing you. But it may be just the video that makes it look worse than it is.

I would love to hook up my bone stock 7.3 X just to see how it goes but that is kind of a drive for me.

This last summer with the camper and boat hooked up and everything loaded down I was able to increase speed and even pass people going up a near-by hill we call the Wausau hill. I have no idea what the grade of the hill is. The hill is about a mile long coming from either way on a 4 lane interstate hwy. My last 96 F250 with a 351 with just the camper would loose all kinds of speed going up the hill. I would get a run at the bottom of the hill at around 75mph and at the top of the hill in my 96 I would be around 45mph. Our 94 7.3 idi turbo with a 4500# load on the truck would just hold its own from bottom to top. In 5th gear it would loose speed, in 4th gear it would gain very slight speed going up the hill.

The hill is in Wausau WI hence the name Wausau hill. lol Some of you may know what hill I am talking about.