Ok the PSD is better but the V10 came in a very close second.

 

Again, better at WHAT? Making the top of the hill? That doesn't make it "better" to ME.

 

Sorry, have only the 0-130 one.
Will that do?

 

Works for me.

 

Bill,

Apparently we may be struggling to determine the definition of "better" and since YOU started this 700+ page and counting thread...what were YOU thinking of "better" when you started this god forsaken and crack addicted thread!

I mean...only YOU can define "better" as it existed in YOUR mind when you asked this question...right?

If "better" is leaving someone's family on the side of the road (6.oh) or spending $6,000 to $7,000 more on a PSD to be able to run 3mph faster up a given grade with the same load or ??? I'm curious as to what YOUR definition of "better" is...not that I think it will stop the insanity and chest beating...but we've explored pulling turbos and spark plugs, we've argued whether "gearing" gives a V10 an advantage...I mean what is "better" to one is "not better" to someone else...right?

I tow with a OMG V10...my combined loaded weight is 17,000#'s...a far cry from what some tow I know...but well within the ratings of my V10 which is what I go by...I travel ALL OVER the country and have shown my young girls much of this amazing country. I've been to and thru the Rockies twice and am headed back again in July. This V10 hasn't met a hill yet she can't climb at speed...so for me...the V10 is a fine tool and I only drive a 2V with the 4R100 to boot! poor little guy ...

But...my point is that I have real world experience that shows me at least that I can tackle anyplace in this beautiful country loaded at 17,000#'s combined rolling weight scale verified if someone wants to see the ticket. I get 8mpg average TOWING mpgs (I have each and every tank I have ever pumped logged again for anyone to see)...to me...the V10 is a fine tool that does an awesome job.

I know the PSD is a fine tool that also does an awesome job. Personally it isn't for me because I'm not into spending an extra up front price of admission but that is just MY situation...I don't begrudge anyone for that choice...why they feel the need to begrudge me and other V10 owners is beyond me...whether I choose to run 1 or 2 or 3 mph slower up a given grade is MY choice if I choose to not push the motor...but then again especially with these HP monsters of today like the 6.7L...pure HP numbers alone obviously say the 6.7L makes more HP...big whoop...the question for me is can I make it to the top of EVERY hill on the US interstate system...and thus far...it is a big YES no questions asked...!

So Bill...what is YOUR definition of "better"...

Joe.

 

Is their any V10's with over 300K miles yet? I am curious how many miles they hold out for on average.

 

There are tons of 300k+ modulars. There is a 97 5.4 that has 1,200,000 on it and there was an article posted a few weeks ago about an 06 Superduty that had just hit 1,000,000.

500,000 with good maintance is not uncommon.

 

Which one costs less to drive, is less likly to break down, pulls harder, lasts longer, ect.
Thats the one I would call the better engine of the two.

 

Thats allot of gas at 8mpg.

 

What do you get at 17,000 lbs?

 

I wonder ??

 

Here is still picture

 

I got 17 mpg (hand calculated) at gross of 16,500 pulling a 95 F-350 4x4 on my trailer from Dallas, TX to Southern Illinois

No, I haven't read the link yet, but plan to soon....

Here are the numbers:

V10 TS trans 1- (1176.8) ft. lbs. 2- (837.8) 3- (582.7) 4- (380.8) 5- (270.4)

1995 sig truck (with 650 RWTQ) 1-(2691) ft. lbs 2- (1540.5) 3- (923) 4- (650) 5- (494)

TS gear ratios - 1-3.09 2-2.20 3-1.53 4-1.00 5-.71

ZF-5 spd ratios - 1-4.14 2-2.37 3-1.42 4-1.00 5-.76

The V10 may have a little edge at the end of 1st gear, but as soon as he shifts, I have the advantage again....

When I get my mods done, I'll have to race my friend with the 3v v10, I think I'll beat him worse than you think (remember, I have to shift too...)

 

Ok, now thats crazy even for me. I have never set the CC going faster than 120.

Where is the vidoe showing you got there faster?

 

I didn't weigh it but the fully loaded X with 25' TT and 16' retired work boat (heavy) I got 14.5.