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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by plgebbia
I know of countless 7.3L with 3-400,000 miles on them that are still going strong. I also pretty frequently hear of 7.3L with 500,000 plus on them.

That is hardly the case for gas engines in general.
Ok, but we are not talking about gas engines in general. We are talking about the Ford modular engine family, which is well known for lasting a very long time.

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More rpms= shorter life. and that too is a fact.
Thats your opinion.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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I work on Ford trucks, and more specifically 7.3L Powerstrokes, and out in the field or on the road they last longer. If gas engines last as long, and could pull as well, why don't we see them in over the road and big rig trucks?

More rpms= shorter life. and that too is a fact.
So your saying there are 350 GM gassers with a million miles on them and are agreeing there is a documented case of a 5.4l with over a million miles on it and your saying more rpms means a shorter engine life and that its a fact with no proof.

FYI, a SD is not a class 8 truck. The diesel boys hang on that like a baby to plump tata. The diesel is there for fuel mileage, thats about it.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dkf
There is "a" dcoumented 5.4l with over a million miles on it. Where is the 7.3l with over a million miles on it?
"A" 5.4l. That hardly proves anything.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dkf
The diesel is there for fuel mileage, thats about it.


Keep telling yourself that and ignore real world ease of towing and the manufacturer's higher tow ratings for diesels...but yeah mileage is better so you got something right.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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Find me "a" PSD.

No hearsay, no "my friend's brother's uncle's truck..."

Where is it? Who has it? I'm sure SOMEONE here must have one...right?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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I know of one 97 F-Super Duty 7.3psd with over 300,000 miles. It's in a work truck that weighs over 13,000lbs, and has 4.56 gears in it. In a couple years it should be well over the 400,000 mark.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy001
Find me "a" PSD.

No hearsay, no "my friend's brother's uncle's truck..."

Where is it? Who has it? I'm sure SOMEONE here must have one...right?

I know the guy with all the PSD vids on youtube has one that blew up at 796,000 or some where around there. Thats the highest mileage 7.3 that I have seen proof of.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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There's a guy here on the FTE that has over 300K on his '05 V10 with little more than oil changes and an alternator or two. Find me a 6.0 or 6.4 anywhere near that for comparison and we'll talk trouble-free...
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dkf
There is "a" dcoumented 5.4l with over a million miles on it. Where is the 7.3l with over a million miles on it?
There is Thessaloniki cabbie that made 4.5 million km (2.4 mil miles) on 4 cylinder diesel.
Shall we switch to 4-bangers?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy001
Find me "a" PSD.

No hearsay, no "my friend's brother's uncle's truck..."

Where is it? Who has it? I'm sure SOMEONE here must have one...right?
No hearsay. Not my uncles, yea I have 1. In my driveway is "a" psd. 80% of sd sales has a psd in it. Come on they can't be that hard to find. Well if you haven't seen one look in my gallery. That's "a" psd.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sand_Man
There's a guy here on the FTE that has over 300K on his '05 V10 with little more than oil changes and an alternator or two. Find me a 6.0 or 6.4 anywhere near that for comparison and we'll talk trouble-free...
My brother just bought one a weekago. We're planning on getting some pictures up of it.
Not cause of the miles but cause its an amarilo and its a good looking truck. There's lots of em out there. But you have to get away from the keyboard to find em. You find the problem ones on line cause there's where the owners vent.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 10:08 PM
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What year is it?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by plgebbia
There are also chevy 350 v8 motors with over a million miles on them, but that is a very rare occurance.

I know of countless 7.3L with 3-400,000 miles on them that are still going strong. I also pretty frequently hear of 7.3L with 500,000 plus on them.

That is hardly the case for gas engines in general.

I have heard of 7.3L with a million on them, but that is also very rare.
In my opinion, it is a rare occurrence for the 4.6/5.4/6.8 engines to be dead with less then 300,000 miles. I've heard and seen plenty of modular series engines with 250,000+ miles. We ripped apart a '93 4.6 last year that came out of a cab, had something like 250,000 miles on it. It still had the cross hatching on the cylinders.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 11:21 AM
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Keep telling yourself that and ignore real world ease of towing and the manufacturer's higher tow ratings for diesels...but yeah mileage is better so you got something right.
In the past certain 6.8l SDs had a higher GVWR and GCWR than the eqivelent truck with the PSD. So your "diesel having higher tow ratings" isn't always true.

Show me a class 8 that comes with a gasoline engine where you base your "higher towing numbers" off of. DOT likes to play god in determining weight, on class 8 trucks. Fact, you are seeing LPG and CNG replacing diesel fuel in certain applications. Expect that to increase in the future. Reason, cost and emissions.

As for the "ease of towing" its has been discussed several times here, the turbo deserves the majority of the credit for that.


There is Thessaloniki cabbie that made 4.5 million km (2.4 mil miles) on 4 cylinder diesel.
Shall we switch to 4-bangers?
Did I suggest switching to anything? As usual you are out in left field.

Just trying to prove the point that the "diesel last longer" is not necessarily true.

Not cause of the miles but cause its an amarilo and its a good looking truck.
Was the Amarilo a special model? I remember seeing some yellow special SDs from time to time.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dkf
Think again. Fact, you are seeing LPG and CNG replacing diesel fuel in certain applications. Expect that to increase in the future. Reason, cost and emissions..
Not likely. Those are different fuels for gas-guzzlers and the gas prices in mysterious way always follow road fuel prices.
There was lot of propane conversions on the roads in 1970's but as soon as gasoline prices drop down, most of the owners converted them back.
Than our county had a fleet of vehicles powered by natural gas about 15 years ago. Don't see them anymore. I still believe the program with natural gas was similar to the electric vehicles GM was leasing few years back. Only after pulling them all off the road -GM admitted that each one cost them over 1/4 million dollars.
Politics will not last long on the roads.
 
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