This is just my personal experience and things i looked at when i went looking for a truck.

i didnt read the whole thread and I maybe be wrong about somethings i post.

First off i looked at an 06 power stroke and an 06 v10 that i know own. the power stroke had 39k my v10 had a little over 40k. both were equally equipped trucks with the exception my truck sat a hair higher and had a plow. the power stroke was 31k i paid 23k for my truck. the asking price was 25k. they wouldn't budge on the power stroke said it would sell with ease.

i didnt like the things i read and talk about with others about the psd. I read about oil line failures, pump failures, warped heads. i read about the need to take the heads off. i also noticed the one i test drove didnt get that much better gas millage then my v10 about 2-3 mpg. dont know if it was the gearing or what. i actually sat down and tried to do some rough math. the way i figured it was yes it does get better miles per a gallon but the fuel costs more. about 30-40 cents more then in my area. the cheapest gas in my area right now is 3.09 the cheapest diesel is 3.39. then add the cost of the price difference and well you can see that the v10 works better for me.

my purpose for buying the truck at the time was i had a small landscaping/excavating company. i bought it to tow a 7k excavator and a bobcat. it towed them with ease up the hills. i also use the truck to tow cars around as well as my boat. nothing crazy heavy the most it pulled at was about 11-12k. here was my conclusion yes the diesel has more trq and power. both are rated at the same towing capacities in the book though of 15xxx. after i bought the truck i though about this. i cant remember the diesels rev limiter or its shift points. most diesels dont rev high. since the v10 can rev higher its allows the truck to use bigger gears like the 4.10s in my truck and allows the truck to use its revs to run a more favorable gear ratio allowing it to achieve the same pulling as the psd. off the line the psd is a little more powerful.off the line the psd has a little lag (i didnt really notice it in my test drive) but in towing is a little more favorable then the v10.

how ever my favorite thing about the v10 is the shear quietness of the truck. yes i know some will say i love the sound of the turbo and the knocking. but i take long trips 600+ miles in my truck and i just love how quite it is.

Sorry for my bad grammar and spelling.

 

My 2000 V10 had 4.10 gearing, the 6.4 has 3.53.

I bought the V10 when we lived in CA and needed to haul our travel trailer into the Sierra Nevada. Some of the hills into Yosemite would make any truck cry for mercy.

 

No offense, but someone who is getting 4 tons Superduty for grocery-getter has to have something wrong with his perspectives.
Slow warming diesels is a fact, but that also applies to economical gasoline engines. New generation engines need 3-5 miles to warm up even in 50F California winter.
That has been addressed in other countries by installing auxiliary (Webasto) heaters on diesels.

 

some of the older diesels had heaters on them. Mine has a heater for the Fuel tank from the factory (also has a block heater and a heating element on the Radiator so that the coolant starts the heater quickly installed by me.)

 

Different animals. Block heaters are low power and will warm up the engine when left for hours.
Webasto heaters use diesel burner and have outputs in the range of 3-6 kW. That will not only warm up engine close to normal operating temperature in few minutes, but will give you 75F inside the cabin.
In US they are used on high end boats and RV, but for some reason are not making into automotive industry.

 

i dont know if i agree with this 100%. i bought my super duty for a business but i sold the business and kept the truck. i use it to tow my boat and my cars. but i do use it to run out and grab groceries sometimes or run other errands.

realistically its not the much heaver then a f150/1500 what do they weigh 5000-5500 range. my truck on the scale came in at 6750 (it rounds to 25 pound denominations) . most modern cars weigh in close to 4k

im averaging 13mpg. my fathers 06 1500 averages 17 and my 92 2500 350 gets about 10 mpg average. town car gets 19/2x , zr1 14/20 and gt500 probably gets about 15/20 range. there are plenty of preformance cars that get pretty crappy mpg ratings

all in all i don't see how its all that bad to use it as a multi function vehicle.

like i said i tow my boat and my cars, i use it to get lumber and to get parts (the other day i picked up the motor for my car with it) and i use it to go get groceries and commute to work sometimes and go to the movies. i dont see what so wrong with that.

 

There is nothing wrong with it, If someone has the money and wants to drop any amount of money they have decided on spending on one of these trucks. Or any other vehicle for that matter, for getting groceries or going to the movies. Then so be it that person has the right to do so.

 

The crucial word is "getting for". When I was more active in business, I had my flatbed for heavy loads and a wagon for running errands, hauling some lumber and few bags of garbage.
It made more economical sense to pay for the 2nd car than drive the "shoebox". Now I have no extra car, but take my wife or son Mercedes for getting the groceries. Not only economical, but way more comfortable.

 

miss read that i guess my apology. but i could see what percayad home owners who buy these trucks use them for a multipurpose roll. so i think his review was pretty fair.

 

I would second the point that a vehicle that weighs in at 8,000 pounds is far from the ideal errand-mobile. We have a Cadillac SRX for the grocery and around-town errands. In the spring/summer/fall, I'm more likely to take one of my motorcycles/scooters to run the errands. (fun and save fuel!)

Once in a while, the last vehicle in the driveway is the F250 and in the middle of a snow squal, she'll get used for errands. Boy does it suck fuel for short errands.

However, hauling four boy scouts, all their packs, food and the troop trailer - the F250 wins every time!

But that said, it's a free country and some people make choices that I would most likely choose differently.

 

I'll be the first to admit I don't absolutely need my F350. I do tow from time to time up to 11,000 lbs, but it's not that frequent. Maybe a few times each year or so.

I could get away with a properly equipped F150, but it wouldn't do nearly as good of a job handling the load. When I needed to replace my last truck the top engine in an F150 was the 5.4L, which I was unsatisfied with when towing heavy.

I'll admit my F350 isn't as comfortable nor as efficient as a car to drive around town, but it gets the job done. In decent weather I drive my 2000 Contour back and forth to work, but in the winter it mostly stays parked.

I like to drive my car when I can, but there are times I need a truck! So I bought one!

 

At least that is what they hope so. Few years ago lot of people in Bay Area drove 7 mpg Hummers. Gas was just above a buck and fuel cost was marginal in family budget.
Now I don't see Hummers used by single person anymore. Lot of them sit on driveways. Their value dropped even more than used V10

 

iF i dd my truck and use it to run all my errands i only burn 40-55 bucks a week. 2600 a year in fuel. if i go buy a cobalt or a focus its like 14k for one new thats 5.3 years worth of fuel plus i still have to put fuel in the econo car plus insurance.

in the summer i hardly drive the truck it sat for 2 months strait this summer while i drove the camaro. some how i manage to burn far more fuel in that. lol

 

Wrong ! spark plug changes in a diesel are cake

 

true dat!!!