I can't believe I'm going to say this.......but I actually agree with you for once lol.

 

I don't know the diameter of van tires, but I do know that they are smaller. That means that Bill's effective gear ratio will be higher which would probably make your gear advantage moot.

I've been waiting for the "my truck will outpull your truck" argument to start up again. All we need now is an argument that a 5.4 will outpull a Scorpion and this thread will be complete.

 

I will out pull most stock 94-03 7.3 PSD.

If you have better gearing or a stick shift you would beat me.

 

It is a .491" smaller than the pickup tire.

He would still have an advantage with his 4.10s over my 3.73s.

You add in the stick over my slush box and he would out pull me.

I ****ing hate my 4R100 for towing.

 

At 166K I have never blown a plug.

So you can get 32 highway MPGs?
25 in town?
20 towing 10K?

I would like to see that.

 

So for those of us keeping score at home, you initially claimed to be able to outpull any psd. Then you could outpull only a 7.3. Now you can only outpull most 7.3's. On top of that, you hate your transmission for towing. Tell me, do you hate it when you're using it to outpull my psd? Just wonderin'.

 

I think Bill needs to adjust his signature to say "BONE STOCK" psd. The way it is written now is incorrect. To many excuses when somebody speaks up about it.

Of course this thread would not get all of this attention.

 

Bill's new signature:

Hello, the name is Bill and my E350 V10 Shagmobile will out pull any Powerstroke Turbo Diesel any day of the week, and if I have enough gas, twice on Sunday.

Important notice: Some or all of this claim may appear to be misleading. In order for this claim to pertain to you, the following criteria must be met:

Your psd must be 94-03 7.3
Rear differential ratio must not exceed 3.73:1
Truck must have a 4R100 automatic transmission
Truck must be equipped with a clogged fuel filter
Elevation while pulling must not exceed 2,000 feet above sea level
Barometric pressure must be 30.00 inches of mercury or higher
Truck must not be modified in any way, to include a custom door keypad code
You shouldn't pull while pregnant, have heart disease, or high blood pressure
Consult your doctor prior to hitching
If it appears that you out pulled Bill, you are mistaken

Bill assumes no liability for injuries sustained while falling out of your chair while reading his claims. He has invoked his right to creative posting to amuse the readership as well as to just simply get chicks

 

Now that right there is some funny chit!!! I might change my signature to that!!!

 

You know I'm just messing with you about your signature . Seriously though, if you're ever in this area look me up and we can run some tests. I wouldn't care to put you up for the night and make a day of it.

 

You mean the 5.4 won't outpull the 6.7?? The 5.4 has 310 hp and weighs ~5800lbs in a base xl regular cab. That's a hp to weight ratio of 1 hp for every 18.7 lbs. The new 6.7 in an f450 crew cab, dually, fully loaded, 4x4, automatic, etc, has to weigh at least 8k lbs. That's a hp to weight ratio of 1 hp for every 20.5 lbs. By those numbers the 5.4 should pull circles around the 6.7

 

Yeah, we really need to do a good comparison. There was a group a few hundred posts or so that did a comparison, but not really apples to apples. And the magazine that takes a F-250 and compares it to a F-350 dually does not make sense either, and don't get me started on a 15% pull for 800 feet. I can agree with gearing differences, but other than that, the year should be close and mods should be close.

I have the truck in my signature, if anyone around Spokane can get together, I am game. There has got to be a few people around here close to each other with similar trucks/mods.

 

OK I'm going to chime in here on this one. I've owned 3 V10's, a '03 2v, '06 3v, and '08 3v and I can tell you honestly that the 6.8 V10 is a GREAT motor. I won't, however, sit here and tell you that it will outpull the PSD. Having owned a 7.3 PSD and a 6.0 I know for a fact that the 2v couldnt outpull the 7.3 and the 3v can outpull the 6.0/6.4. That being said I will list for you why I buy the V10.

1. It owns the Dodge 5.7, and the GM 6.0
2. Of all the miles I've put on all my V10's I have not had one thing go wrong with any of them
3. If you keep your foot out of the floor they will get good mileage for a 3/4 or 1 ton truck

There are a few other reasons I could list but lets just stick with those 3 and then take a look at the PSD shall we? Here are the reasons I wont ever drive another PSD (at least not for awhile) and will keep buying V10's

1. It gets owned by the Dodge 6.7 and GM 6.6
2. My 6.0 had a legitimate mechanical failure every 15K or so and my dads 6.4 isnt much better
3. My 6.0 got terrible mileage compared to the CTD and Dmax and the 6.4 is even worse

So in summary you can buy a V10 and get the best of the best of gas motors in the HD market and have it wrapped in a Ford body (hooray!) or you can buy those overall worst diesel on the market right now and suffer through it because you have an undying love for Ford. Myself I chose to buy Dodge diesels as they pull the best and seem to not have near the problems of the Ford and I buy a V10 because of the reasons mentioned above. I'm not saying you all should do the same but I do what I do because it works wonders for me.

 

Bump-further more I think this thread should be made a sticky. Its a good topic that I believe a lot of people should read before making a decision. Also its a good example of how not to post on these boards. Noobs will take a look at how foolish everybody made Bill look and think "maybe I should think before I type".

 

BigDaddy, I agree about making this thread a sticky, there's lots of good info here.

But your comment about Bill was unwarranted at best. Most of us, myself included, are on here to have a good time and learn things. Bill, as well as the rest of us who keep posting here, have done both. What's so wrong with that?

I, for one, think Bill handled adversity and criticism way better than 90 percent of those who come on here. So many like to get angry, upset, and argumentative when presented with a dissenting opinion. They resort to childish tactics such as name calling, and then the thread gets ugly. I think he provided a great example of how a mature adult should handle himself...which is something so many never learned.