Gas vs PSD
Fleet Mechanic
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From: Garden Valley, Idaho
Both the V-10 I owned and the 6.0 are bone stock. No programers, aftermarket intakes or any other performance mods to either truck. The truck is still underwarranty and has more than enough performance for me as is. I used to "drink the cool-aid" too when I owned the v-10 but once I towed with the 6.0 my tune change considerably.
What did you mean by "flipping the lever" then? Sounded to me like you have a flip switch chip.
Hotshot
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From: Melbourne, Ky
I going out here on a limb, but I believe a big reason for the V-10 in a motorhome versus a diesel has to do with weight. Motorhomes that I have been around are maxed out weight wise, or exceed the weight limit. An extra 500 or so pounds from a heavier engine would not make much sense. Also, you are sitting on top of those engines, so having a quiet, comfortable ride is not as easily obtained with a diesel versus a gas engine. Although the new diesel engines are much quieter than the older versions. A good friend just bought a 2009 Dodge with the 6.7 cummins. A very quiet engine, with A LOT of power!!! Truck is all factory too. No chip or programmer. Across the board in the pickup line, Ford, Dodge, and GM, you will find no shortage of power among any diesel option with any of them!
Postmaster
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From: CA Bay Area
I can confirm the noise of front diesel in motorhome for sure. Had one motorhome like it years ago and still laugh watching the video where we have been yelling to each other over the engine noise. Have the samey in my Ford, but at least I don't have to communicate with kids few feet behind me.
On the other hand the popular motorhome builders are using the cheapest materials available. Typical issue is that lot of them drive off factory line with tires loaded to 95% of their capacity. Add passengers, water and stuff and you get the picture.
On the other hand the popular motorhome builders are using the cheapest materials available. Typical issue is that lot of them drive off factory line with tires loaded to 95% of their capacity. Add passengers, water and stuff and you get the picture.
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From: Rogersville, TN
The v-10 truck did struggle with the weight and the grade. You don't see very many tow vehicles with high mileage that need to spin at 3500 rpm in order to haul a heavy load.
Given my two trucks pulling the same travel trailer there was no way no matter how many gears it dropped it was going to pass my 2006. I give you that the v-10 might have been faster unloaded but racing a 8 thousand pound truck never interested me all that much.
Given my two trucks pulling the same travel trailer there was no way no matter how many gears it dropped it was going to pass my 2006. I give you that the v-10 might have been faster unloaded but racing a 8 thousand pound truck never interested me all that much.
I used to the think the same thing about my 5.4 and 7.3. I argued for about 200 pages for the diesel side because my 7.3 just felt stronger. It climbed the same hills in a higher gear at a lower rpm and I just "knew" that it would blow my 5.4 away no matter how I compared them. Once I started looking at the mph they climbed the hill at instead of what gear I was in, my 5.4 was going 15 mph faster up the same hills. I am not interested in racing my truck, but I don't mind letting it turn the rpms it needs to climb a hill either.
Cargo Master
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This is getting crazy. If we mention the 110 lbs of tq the psd has over the v10 yall say that doesn't matter. You say hp is all that matters. When we challenge that the. You say its not the engine its the transmission whe. I show its the same transmission you its the gear then final drive. I think the thread is called v10 vs psd. I haven't heard of a tranny or gear ratio or rearend with tbese names. So I assume where talking about the ford engines inside the superduty model of ford trucks. I think its safe to say that in the end the we haven't found a 100% ad andvantage from either engine. I beliebe it shows neither engine is going to out pull the other.
Are yall serious? Are yall reallu comparing a motorhome to the work and abuse we expect for or pickups? Insane I say. A motorhome doesn't see the fields, muck, weight, or work that my trucks sees. A motorhome see what? 15k lbs. Driven alittle a year. Most times in a rv park. Yea I'd say a gasser would be better suited. If you leave a psd setting I hear of them getting lot rot. It just makes sense nut in no way compares to work we do w/ or SDs.rk
Are yall serious? Are yall reallu comparing a motorhome to the work and abuse we expect for or pickups? Insane I say. A motorhome doesn't see the fields, muck, weight, or work that my trucks sees. A motorhome see what? 15k lbs. Driven alittle a year. Most times in a rv park. Yea I'd say a gasser would be better suited. If you leave a psd setting I hear of them getting lot rot. It just makes sense nut in no way compares to work we do w/ or SDs.rk
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I've borrowed my buddies STOCK 06 Ram 3500 SRW, that thing pulls way easier than the V10 triton, with 12k behind each going up a mountain pass you wouldn't see which way he went
Fleet Mechanic
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From: Garden Valley, Idaho
If the V-10 was a 2006, then you're wrong. A 2006 or above V-10 with the Torqueshift tranny will eat any Dodge, regardless of engine or what it's towing. If the dodge boys don't do extreme mods, then they won't keep up. And if you ever try a 2008 Dodge with a Cummins, all you need is to have their sootbag cleaned or replaced about every 2,000 miles or they won't run at all.
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From: Rogue River, Oregon
If the V-10 was a 2006, then you're wrong. A 2006 or above V-10 with the Torqueshift tranny will eat any Dodge, regardless of engine or what it's towing. If the dodge boys don't do extreme mods, then they won't keep up. And if you ever try a 2008 Dodge with a Cummins, all you need is to have their sootbag cleaned or replaced about every 2,000 miles or they won't run at all.
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Fleet Mechanic
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From: Garden Valley, Idaho
You mean when I whip all those Dodges, it's just my imagination. Actually, stock Dodges are no challenge at all. Stock Chevy's are a little tougher but I still take them. Ford 7.3's are no problem as are stock 6.0's. The newer 6.4's are about even. I haven't run against a new Ford 6.7 diesel yet, but they are rated pretty high as are the new Chevy's. The new Dodge diesel is rated 50hp less than the Ford or the Chevy; don't know what they are up to these days, but w/o alot of mods, they suck.
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From: Ohio
Just got back from a weekend trip with the new truck/camper. A nice svelte tri-axle almost 42 ft toy hauler. Quite the beast. All I know is the 6.4 PSD towed what is just about 2 times the weight of my old TT, and never cracked 3k rpm doing it. Those rpms only happened from a standing start and running up through the gears and only when I was gettin on it a bit. Two times the weight, lower rpms, as good or slightly better fuel mileage. Seems like a no-brainer to me. And no, I don't think an extra 52 hp and 27 ft lbs of torque would make up the difference. Not a chance.
Hotshot
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From: Melbourne, Ky
So a stock v-10 will now out run a cummins? Took an 09 Dodge for a test drive the other day and I was quite impressed with the power. A friend had just bought the truck. I'd say an EGR delete and DPF delete will likely be done on the truck in the future.
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You mean when I whip all those Dodges, it's just my imagination. Actually, stock Dodges are no challenge at all. Stock Chevy's are a little tougher but I still take them. Ford 7.3's are no problem as are stock 6.0's. The newer 6.4's are about even. I haven't run against a new Ford 6.7 diesel yet, but they are rated pretty high as are the new Chevy's. The new Dodge diesel is rated 50hp less than the Ford or the Chevy; don't know what they are up to these days, but w/o alot of mods, they suck.
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The "fun flipper" is a reference to the gas pedal. When I mash it to the floor the fun starts. Its a term us snowmobilers use alot here in the midwest as the gas pedal on a snowmobile is a flipper on the right side of the handlebars.
The 6.0 is stock down the original air filter. Just turned 66k on it today.
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Turning more rpms and in a lower gear does not mean it was "struggling" any more than the psd having to use boost with a load and no boost unloaded means it was struggling. To me, struggling means it was downshifted as far as it could go, pedal to the floor and losing speed. There is nothing wrong with having to downshift to maintain speed.
I used to the think the same thing about my 5.4 and 7.3. I argued for about 200 pages for the diesel side because my 7.3 just felt stronger. It climbed the same hills in a higher gear at a lower rpm and I just "knew" that it would blow my 5.4 away no matter how I compared them. Once I started looking at the mph they climbed the hill at instead of what gear I was in, my 5.4 was going 15 mph faster up the same hills. I am not interested in racing my truck, but I don't mind letting it turn the rpms it needs to climb a hill either.
I used to the think the same thing about my 5.4 and 7.3. I argued for about 200 pages for the diesel side because my 7.3 just felt stronger. It climbed the same hills in a higher gear at a lower rpm and I just "knew" that it would blow my 5.4 away no matter how I compared them. Once I started looking at the mph they climbed the hill at instead of what gear I was in, my 5.4 was going 15 mph faster up the same hills. I am not interested in racing my truck, but I don't mind letting it turn the rpms it needs to climb a hill either.
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Try 26 gcwr with a huge frontal area. Heres an easy way to compare most people with class a rv wth the 6.8 get 5-8mpg. What do people on here report average around 10. The difference is the most people have their rv loaded to their max gvwr 100% of the time. How often do you run rown the road at 26k