Sorry guys, this is not going to be popular here but thought this would give us a couple more weeks to discuss things.

And you have to read the comments at the bottom as the author answers questions about the validity.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/09...ing-ranch.html

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/09...-showdown.html

 

My 01cc can only legally haul 2500lbs because the truck itself is so dang heavy (9900lbs gvwr). If I had a regular cab, that number would be around 3300lbs. Cab configuration makes a big difference. They'll still haul more though. I had a skid of quikrete in the other week. 3360lbs total and the truck sat level. 2 days later I had 3200lbs of scrap and a weigh slip that shows I was over the 10,000lb mark.

 

I'm with these guys too. My 250 has a payload of 8,800-5,600=3,200 lbs. I won't even respond to the 5.4 comment either.....

 

No need to be passive aggressive.

1...Is it not a fact the F350, all else being equal, is rated to hold a larger amount of weight than the F250?

2...Would you also agree that the 5.4 is not suited to the towing of a 21,000lb trailer an average of 300 miles on public highways per week?

While you may like your truck and it may work okay for you, please accept that it is not big enough, powerful enough or strong enough for my needs.

 

The 350 is rated to legally haul more if all things are equal. That being said, not all trucks are created equal and there are plenty of 250's out there with more payload than a lot of 350's.

It all depends on the terrain and elevation. I drove a minimum of 400 miles per week(interstate) for the last 4 years and I would not have thought twice about pulling 21,000 on those roads with a 5.4. That is more than my truck would be able to handle, but the engine never complained with 15k lbs hooked to it.

While you love your truck and think that it is the only one that can suit your needs, keep in mind that the guy asking the question doesn't have the same needs as you. He was asking about hauling wood 2 to 3 times per year and doing work around the house. An f-150 with a 4.9 would more than suit his needs. He wants a 250 or 350 and the 5.4 is more than capable of hauling or towing anything that either of those trucks can legally handle.

 

Wow, 400 HP,800 lb ft , a turbo, 4.30s and the new 6 speed auto and it was still down to 50 MPH towing 10,700 lbs.

Thats a mean climb


I wonder what it would have my truck or a PSD of the same age down too.

 

I am pretty sure that's charger fan's point. I honestly would like to see the hd shootout there with gas engines too.

 

The GMC Duramax pulled 66mph (15 mph higher than the F450) despite the fact it was carrying 13,700lbs (3000lbs more, which more than made up for the 600lb truck weight difference)...that doesn't bode well for the new 6.7 it has to be said...it was even Ford 4.30s vs GM 3.73s dear oh dear

"phillips91"- all good bud

 

One problem with the test tho is they are different trailers with different amounts of wind drag, tire drag, etc. If you read the comments, they got bashed pretty good.

 

Wouldnt a 10mph rolling start make more sense foe these test? It seems like alot of them hqve huge traction issues which skew the results.

 

Yea, I have a hard time seeing there being that kind of diffrence if everything was fair, the trucks numbers are just so close.

 

Are we talking about 3 truck loads/ trailerloads of wood a year or a few truck loads/trailerloads of woods 3 times a year? What kind of projects. Barbwire, fencepost, sakcret, lumber, sheetrock, and sideing can get heavy quick. Either way I advice the v10. Simple reason it seems that psd doesn't do well sitting around. It sounds to me like the maintaince cost would out weigh anything else. I don't know what these guys are talking about legal payloads. The might be talking about their states. Surely their not talking about Fords rateings cause their legal, or shall we say binding. Just cause your book says you can doesn't mean the state/feds agree. I don't know the payloads are for those models you mentioned by Ford but for 2004 according to the owners manual: f250s-f350s duls 5.4 with 3:73s has a GCVWR of 13500 and with 4:10s 15000.
6.8ls with 3.73s 17000lbs and 4:30 20000lbs
6.0l is 20000lbs in all gears. Your state might have a different opion about that. Again that's for 04 250s and both 350s. As far as my trucks payload goesm its gvw is 88000lbs. My truck as it sits w/ tool box weighs 81000. Leaving me w/ a 700lb payload. Monday I had a ton of feed in the bed. Yea she squaded but she totes it just fine. I don't do that real often these days cause I have a few trailers. Monday I dint have time to hookup a trailer I just loaded and ran.
All this being said an f150 with a 5.4 is more than enough to do this kind of work. I did it fors years out of a f150. I thouight there was no need in the extra money of a SD. I'll monday to explain the value in the money. 1 ton of feed in sacks is 40 50lb bags. I was selling the feed to a buddy. We backedup so we can step from tailgate to tailgate loading him up. We meet half way. He has an 06f150. Its been a while since I been in the back of one. So first thing I notice when I stepped across onto his bed it crouched. I weight 220lbs. I thought hmmm. Stepped on my 250 didn't move. After we finished loading him up I just thought I was sagging. Could just barely run your hand over the top of the tire. That my friend ment a lot to me. Then again I do stupid stuff with my truck. Hey for what's its worth happy hunting and I know you'll enjoy whatever you endup with.

 

Not disagreeing with the rest of your post but the above quote is a myth...never had a problem with any of my pickups or bigger trucks which have gone un-used and for long periods. Now this is only my second PSD so maybe it's not a myth for them but it is for other diesels, just ask the millions of people who run them in europe, many at vacation homes.

 

Nor did I.
I mentioned restarting Caterpillar in motorhome sitting for 7 years with original fuel already.
My Supeduty for 3 years was averaging 2000 miles a year before I started to make bigger use of it. Quite often didn't touch it for 2 months. I am spoiled with good weather in CA, where stuff like water condensation (algeage) or wet wiring don't happen, but only once a rain started fire on my windshield wiper motor on truck not moved for 2 weeks.

 

In that kind of test I think the ford was at a huge disadvantage even though chevy was trying to make it look like it was at a huge advantage. Let's say both engines are powerful enough to pull the hill in a 1.6 tranny gear but not a 1.0. The ford makes peak hp at 2,800 rpms and the chevy at about 3,500 or so. So even with the same gearing the chevy will go faster in that 1.6 tranny gear just by having more rpms alone. Give the ford a 4.30 and the chevy a 3.73 and you are limiting the fords speed even more. Put a taller gear in the ford and it will do a lot better in that test. With the right, or wrong, gearing and the right circumstances you can get whatever results you want.