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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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As I said, in heavy hauling Ford's F350-550 have no competition, unless you go into converted semitrucks what seems to be emerging market.
But such usage is small percentage while lot of owners are using Supeduty to haul single a** to work.
I don't know how it looks in other states, but in CA Federal Express is using Sprinters exclusively, while their vans and buses are holding unbelievable prices, what shows owners appreciation. Try to compare prices of motorhomes based on Sprinter v/s those based on Ford chassis?
Would Sprinters sell for what they do in Europe, they would rule the roads like they do in other countries.
Good luck finding a Superduty outside Northern America. They are only few in Australia.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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Kaljtek, what is it about the sprinter that you love so much?
Its ugly, under powerd and built too weak to take any real truck use.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:34 PM
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1. I am not buying trucks for the looks. That's what Mercedes sedan is for
2. Even fuel in US is still cheap comparing to other countries, spending $200 DAILY with my F450 is not making me too happy. All Sprinter owners love the 25 mpg.
3. The 7.3 PS I have is reliable engine, but the small stuff popping up every week can be really annoying. The rear differential blow was a big hit.
4. I could enjoy a truck capable of making a million or 2 miles without dozens of replaced parts.
5. My F450 is not only burning good amount of fuel, but is pretty uncomfortable to drive. I come to the point where I installed a trailer hitch on my Mercedes to use small trailer for few pieces of lumber. No need to fire up the beast.
So in some hauling applications Mercedes sedan beats F450. What else can I say?
 
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
1. I am not buying trucks for the looks. That's what Mercedes sedan is for
2. Even fuel in US is still cheap comparing to other countries, spending $200 DAILY with my F450 is not making me too happy. All Sprinter owners love the 25 mpg.
3. The 7.3 PS I have is reliable engine, but the small stuff popping up every week can be really annoying. The rear differential blow was a big hit.
4. I could enjoy a truck capable of making a million or 2 miles without dozens of replaced parts.
5. My F450 is not only burning good amount of fuel, but is pretty uncomfortable to drive. I come to the point where I installed a trailer hitch on my Mercedes to use small trailer for few pieces of lumber. No need to fire up the beast.
Why are you still here then? It's very clear that you do not like the US, want to change the very things that make the US what it is, and feel that any euro-trash crap-box is better than anything made here....
JL
 
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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Do we have Mercedes hater here?
Than let me differ. I don't think that driving plugs spitting, danger trucks is what makes US.
Reading history of US it was immigrants ingenuity and productivity what made this country famous and strong.
Only last generation screw it up.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
As I said, in heavy hauling Ford's F350-550 have no competition, unless you go into converted semitrucks what seems to be emerging market.
But such usage is small percentage while lot of owners are using Supeduty to haul single a** to work.
I don't know how it looks in other states, but in CA Federal Express is using Sprinters exclusively, while their vans and buses are holding unbelievable prices, what shows owners appreciation. Try to compare prices of motorhomes based on Sprinter v/s those based on Ford chassis?
Would Sprinters sell for what they do in Europe, they would rule the roads like they do in other countries.
Good luck finding a Superduty outside Northern America. They are only few in Australia.
I used my Super Duty to haul my **** around 90% of the time. Problem is that when I needed to tow my horse trailer, a Fiat 500 just wouldn't do it.

I don't think we have anything like the CA Federal Express here, CA is a much bigger state than WV, at for capital; but I do agree Sprinters are good vans. But that is it, they are good vans, as a truck they fall pretty flat and are way to under powered.

I'm pretty sure you won't see anyone in most other countries driving Super Duties because of costs, circumstances (i.e. tiny roads from the 19th century as in most of Europe), or because of government. Thailand for example does not allow the imports of Super Duties. Their was a guy on this forum a while ago asking if the 2011 6.7L was going to be imported to Holland, and the chief engineer for the 2011 Super Duty said no because emissions were to strict. Additionally, many countries tax their vehicles based on engine size, this is why so many European cars have 2.0L turbos instead of big V6's. In some countries the taxes can be as high as 50% of the price of the car. A friend of mine from Columbia said anything above 5.0L had a 150% sales tax on it. Would you buy a F350 for $150,000?

In short Super Duties are not popular through out the rest of the world because no wants them, but rather because they can't get them. Every time I had someone from outside this country (i.e. Europe or Asia) in my truck they always commented how they loved those big trucks, but could not buy them back in their country.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
Do we have Mercedes hater here?
Nope-an import hater.
When the importation began, the decline of the US began.
JL
 
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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I wish you would become a supporter Kajtek, I would love to hear what you think about other things.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
Do we have Mercedes hater here?
Than let me differ. I don't think that driving plugs spitting, danger trucks is what makes US.
Yeah... BMW is much better
 
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
Nope-an import hater.
When the importation began, the decline of the US began.
JL

Importing what? People, most of where imported too...

The first cars were imported here. My old Accord was made in Ohio, in fact Honda is the second largest employer in Ohio behind the state it's self.

Really though, importing is not the only thing killing the US, America's laziness is the biggest killer IMO. For instance, people don't read how to put a spark plug in correctly and then their V10 spits them out... (Just had to tie the conversation back to the thread)
 
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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The way its worded you would have lost that bet, but i'm willing to concider what is meant. his rearend 9" w a 4:?? gearset.
Since it has an aftermarket gear I stand corrected. In stock form they do not come with anything steeper than a 3.73 though. Even if he has a 4.88 rear end and the stock tranny (1st gear of around a 3.0) he is still only looking at a final drive ratio of 14.64. That is still worlds apart from the 23.45 that my 5.4 has. Do like Bill said and have him put it in 4 low and get a load moving in 1st gear. Then add another 1,500 rpms and more power to the engine.

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I will say, even though this was a long fight, I did learn a ton on here. This thread alone caused me to respect the v10 more, yet caused me to not want one with the driving I do. Until this thread, I did not realize the disadvantage the v10 is at with elevation.

I will still peak in around here and call Bill and Josh on there comments, and I expect nothing less than the same from ya'll.
Originally Posted by 2001400ex
P.S. To Josh, Bill, Krewat:

I did enjoy the banter and thanks for putting up with me. LOL
Congrats on the new truck. Wish you would have stuck with a Ford, but the Duramax is a good engine too. Feel free to stop in anytime. We have all had a good time going back and forth with you too
 
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
Nope-an import hater.
When the importation began, the decline of the US began.
JL
The only "Made in..." stickers I see on my Ford have "Mexico" in them.
So it is Ford hater.
My bad.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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Not trying to be a buzzkill here, but let's keep things on topic and leave the political stuff, as well as the constantly bringing up foreign vehicles that have nothing to do with this topic, out of it.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
I do agree Sprinters are good vans.
For light duty use they might do ok.

They are not even in that same weight class an E350.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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So Bill give us full info?
What percentage of sold E vans are 350?
 
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