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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
That just proves your missing the point.

You don't go slower in a lower gear,you rev higher and go the same speed.
Font you mean between 4th and 5th? In fact you go slower in "lower" gears. Your not going to get same speed out of 3rd as you will 4th. Itseems like 5th has a slight higher speed than 4th but I'm not real sure about that. 5th is just a overdrive to save fuel.I really wanr to see yall pull a hill 60mph @ 5k rpms in2nd or 3rd gear over miles. You've wound out your not pulling any more.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
What question?
I've never claimed that my truck will "outpull" a PSD of the same vintage. I simply stand by my statement that it will pull the same load just as effectively as the PSD does.
Yourself, along with several others here make it seem as if a V10 truck has to get help just to get out of it's own way, and is nothing even close to a PSD, when this is simply NOT true.
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Good them you and I are close to the same page. I don't call getting worse mpg and at 5k rpms as describing "effectively ". There is a person or two on here saying a 3v v10 WILL outpull a 6.4, and I have seen nothing to support that.

Will a v10 pull what a psd will? Yup, just not as easily.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
So you've had that 20K "in the field" on the scale, or is this more of just an assumption?
Load up that hay trailer, and c'mon down to SE Texas. You're gonna find out that they will tow with the same effect, just using a different method.
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That's on the scale buddy. Comeing out the field. I told you I assume nothing. Just like I said your v10 won't out pull my 6.0.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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I don't call getting worse mpg and at 5k rpms as describing "effectively ".
What is your definition of of getting the job done "Effectivley"?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
WTF are you smoking?
Do you have a reading comprehension issue?
I've never said I take my truck off-road. It's a 2WD, and serves it's purpose. I don't see anywhere in this thread where it says anything about 4WD vs 2WD?
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WTF are you smoking? This thread is titled v10 vs psd, but yet. Transmissions, and gears have been brought up. So what's wrong w/ talking about 4wd? It makes sence cause your equiment is for off road. Seems to me yoy would be getting off road. I guess you load and unload on the pavement. How are you running a busness w/ out DOT stickers on that truck? Here in Al. You would be shut down. Plus you'd have to have a CDL. There again making for DOT stickers. Hmmmm be just a Bama thing?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 04:27 PM
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How are you running a busness w/ out DOT stickers on that truck?
Um, he clearly stated the truck in the pic is his personal truck.

Here's a pic of the trailer/load tied onto the back of my truck the day I did the short video:
So the "Farmers" that pull around their million pounds of hay all have DOT numbers?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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[QUOTE=dkf;9409625]Um, he clearly stated the truck in the pic is his personal truck.



So the "Farmers" that pull around their million pounds of hay all have DOT numbers?[/QUOT]
Yup I misunderstood it. I sure did. I did not catch on that he was yalking about 3 trucks. The trailer I believe is suppose to have them too? Being over 24' I had to get farm tags for both mine to register them to keep from having to get dots.
Rolling my eyes.... Everybody know farms are exempt from the cdl and DOT. Just don't get caught w/ red fuel on the road. There's noway he'll pass that equiment off as farm at jobsites.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
If 10,000 pounds behind a 5.4 is so grossly under powered that its unsafe, than that means that a 460 or 7.3 should not even try it.
If either can't maintain a safe highway speed then no they shouldn't. I could be wrong but I have a hard time believing that a stock 5.4 with stock gearing is pulling 10k on anything other than table top flat and is maintaining safe highway speeds at all times. I could be mistaken but my 99 Ford E150 conversion van with a 5.4 was not exactly a torque monster. Maybe he has a special 5.4.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by milfpig115
If either can't maintain a safe highway speed then no they shouldn't. I could be wrong but I have a hard time believing that a stock 5.4 with stock gearing is pulling 10k on anything other than table top flat and is maintaining safe highway speeds at all times.
It's always interesting to see a sign that says "trucks stay right" on a big hill...

Damn diesel semis.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by milfpig115
If either can't maintain a safe highway speed then no they shouldn't. I could be wrong but I have a hard time believing that a stock 5.4 with stock gearing is pulling 10k on anything other than table top flat and is maintaining safe highway speeds at all times. I could be mistaken but my 99 Ford E150 conversion van with a 5.4 was not exactly a torque monster. Maybe he has a special 5.4.
The key here is what do you define as "safe" highway speeds. I believe everywhere in Al 45 is the min. Speed limit. I've towed more than 10k with my 6150s w/ 5.4 and kept over 45 at all times. I don't know what a f250 w/ do.my poinrt is are we talking safe or lagal?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by exiled
WTF are you smoking? This thread is titled v10 vs psd, but yet. Transmissions, and gears have been brought up. So what's wrong w/ talking about 4wd? It makes sence cause your equiment is for off road. Seems to me yoy would be getting off road. I guess you load and unload on the pavement. How are you running a busness w/ out DOT stickers on that truck? Here in Al. You would be shut down. Plus you'd have to have a CDL. There again making for DOT stickers. Hmmmm be just a Bama thing?
It is a 'Bama thing. Texas only requires DOT and CDL if your GCWR is over 26,000.
The dually I'm referring to that hauls that trailer around regularly pulls the truck, trailer and excavator onto any jobsite we have and unloads anywhere it needs to. 4WD with a trailer and load like this will do only one thing that a 2WD with the same load can't-get stuck FAR worse and require much more effort to get out.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
It's always interesting to see a sign that says "trucks stay right" on a big hill...

Damn diesel semis.
Like the semis I always seem to get behind on I81 doing 40-50mph side by side the whole way up the dang grade.(65mph SL)The inexperience of truckers nowadays is just terrible.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by milfpig115
If either can't maintain a safe highway speed then no they shouldn't. I could be wrong but I have a hard time believing that a stock 5.4 with stock gearing is pulling 10k on anything other than table top flat and is maintaining safe highway speeds at all times. I could be mistaken but my 99 Ford E150 conversion van with a 5.4 was not exactly a torque monster. Maybe he has a special 5.4.
The 5.4 is worth a whole lot more than you give it credit for.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 06:05 PM
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Anyone who is not happy with their 4.6l, 5.4l or 6.8l can ship them to me for free "disposal". My 74' F-100 was giving me the old "The F-250 has a modular why can't I"?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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Bill, I thought about all of you V10 fellas today on my way into work and this is no joke. Watched a V10 w/ duals pull out onto the highway w/ a light load behind it. They definitely had it floored. I chuckled b/c it really wasn't going anywhere and turned back around and I heard a bang and the truck had to pull over. I pulled up there to see what happened after I got my can of snuff. Hole in the oil pan. Wonder what that might have been.... I found it funny and figured it would give you V10 guys something to defend. LOL. Also, whenever your ready Bill my PSD is ready for some track time. It hasn't been on the track since April.
 
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