Gas vs PSD
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Thats odd, i take my 2 wheel drive further into the bush than many 4x4 trucks ever get.
Chain up the tires and learn to drive correctly.
I guess logging trucks need to have driven front wheels now to, I see them going up steep snow covered roads daily, no issue once chained up.
Chain up the tires and learn to drive correctly.
I guess logging trucks need to have driven front wheels now to, I see them going up steep snow covered roads daily, no issue once chained up.
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I would not doubt that at all. There's a lot of factors that can cause loss of traction. Wet grass, loose dirt,gravels, cow manure, mud, and a whole list of stuff. A 4wd helps me maintain traction pulling a trailer through pastures and fields. I don't want to tear up my pastures making ruts when I don't have to. A grain field after its cut is a good place for slipping. If it has just rained it can get messy. I still have to get in there and load that 10k lbs 40' head and get it to the next field. Chains on drive tires are not going go make same traction as 4wd. 4 wheels pulling over 2 wins for me. Besides I don't need chains on the street and look how much time ill spend putting chains on and taking off when I go into and leave fields.4wd is much faster. Its not all about mud and fun. I learned a lession along time ago about how easy it is to loose traction. Add a trailer even empty can start a day out bad.
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I'm currently looking for a Ford F-250 or 350 crew cab. I have read several post regarding V-10 vs PSD. The problem that I'm having trouble is which to buy? I want to find one 1999-2002, because that is my price range. My needs are; I go wood cutting about three times a year and then the truck would be used for projects around the house. I'd rather have to much truck now, because who knows what I might need the truck for in the future. Any advice if I should buy a v-10 or the PSD would be helpful?
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I'm currently looking for a Ford F-250 or 350 crew cab. I have read several post regarding V-10 vs PSD. The problem that I'm having trouble is which to buy? I want to find one 1999-2002, because that is my price range. My needs are; I go wood cutting about three times a year and then the truck would be used for projects around the house. I'd rather have to much truck now, because who knows what I might need the truck for in the future. Any advice if I should buy a v-10 or the PSD would be helpful?
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I'm currently looking for a Ford F-250 or 350 crew cab. I have read several post regarding V-10 vs PSD. The problem that I'm having trouble is which to buy? I want to find one 1999-2002, because that is my price range. My needs are; I go wood cutting about three times a year and then the truck would be used for projects around the house. I'd rather have to much truck now, because who knows what I might need the truck for in the future. Any advice if I should buy a v-10 or the PSD would be helpful?
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As for engines, if you're not towing then no need to spend extra for a diesel. But if you're going gas make sure it's the V10 triton as the V8 triton certainly can't be described as future proof in a heavy duty application...and don't forget to check it's a 4x4
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My payload is 2750...F250, SRW, 6.4PSD. Don't know about the 99-02's though.
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I'm currently looking for a Ford F-250 or 350 crew cab. I have read several post regarding V-10 vs PSD. The problem that I'm having trouble is which to buy? I want to find one 1999-2002, because that is my price range. My needs are; I go wood cutting about three times a year and then the truck would be used for projects around the house. I'd rather have to much truck now, because who knows what I might need the truck for in the future. Any advice if I should buy a v-10 or the PSD would be helpful?
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I bought this truck after the PO had just about killed it with abuse and lack of maintenace. Nothing I am having to fix on it is normal, its all damage thats having to be rapaired.
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One thing to consider with gasoline engine is smog check in states where it applies. Last gasoline El Camino always cost me at least $200 cash and lot of time at shops to pass the smog every 2 years.
Now CA makes diesel inspections as well, but they are visual only and my F450 seems to be exempt.
Now CA makes diesel inspections as well, but they are visual only and my F450 seems to be exempt.
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If you want "too much truck" don't get a 250 as you'll only have 2,000lbs of payload.
The whole emissions thing is a money racket, even here in PA. Diesels are exempt in my county but they still charge an "Exemption Fee".
(No SMOG testing in my area) Its a money racket. A diesel costs about $5 less to inspect than a gasser.
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My 04' F-250 has over 2800lbs of payload capacity.
The whole emissions thing is a money racket, even here in PA. Diesels are exempt in my county but they still charge an "Exemption Fee". (No SMOG testing in my area) Its a money racket. A diesel costs about $5 less to inspect than a gasser.
The whole emissions thing is a money racket, even here in PA. Diesels are exempt in my county but they still charge an "Exemption Fee".
(No SMOG testing in my area) Its a money racket. A diesel costs about $5 less to inspect than a gasser.
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Very low, but if the guy asking the question decided to go by what you said, and only needed 2500lbs for payload, then he'd be paying an extra $400.00 for the tags if he lived in Colorado, just for the 350. The engine's the same, transmission's the same, axle's the same, etc. Not worth the extra cost imo, and THAT is the ONLY reason I got a 250 instead of a 350, SRW, CC, 6.4...
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My 04' F-250 has over 2800lbs of payload capacity.
The whole emissions thing is a money racket, even here in PA. Diesels are exempt in my county but they still charge an "Exemption Fee". (No SMOG testing in my area) Its a money racket. A diesel costs about $5 less to inspect than a gasser.
The whole emissions thing is a money racket, even here in PA. Diesels are exempt in my county but they still charge an "Exemption Fee".
(No SMOG testing in my area) Its a money racket. A diesel costs about $5 less to inspect than a gasser.
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In the early superdutys the F250 was 8800 GVWR and the F350 SRW was 9900 GVWR.
So an 1,100 lb diffrence.
The F250 could be as high as 3,000 payload or as low as 1,800 or so.
It depends on options. You can add 1,100 to both those numbers for the F350.
The V10 will always have around 500 lbs more payload than the PSD.
Funny thing is a 5.4 reg can 2wd Xl F250 can haul more weight than a PSD crew LB 4x4 F350.
So an 1,100 lb diffrence.
The F250 could be as high as 3,000 payload or as low as 1,800 or so.
It depends on options. You can add 1,100 to both those numbers for the F350.
The V10 will always have around 500 lbs more payload than the PSD.
Funny thing is a 5.4 reg can 2wd Xl F250 can haul more weight than a PSD crew LB 4x4 F350.
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Very true. You just have determine if you want to pay the higher registration fee for the 350. Registration fees in some states are way too expensive. All you really get with a SRW 350 over a 250 is the extra labeled GVWR and 2" more block in the rear.
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Very low, but if the guy asking the question decided to go by what you said, and only needed 2500lbs for payload, then he'd be paying an extra $400.00 for the tags if he lived in Colorado, just for the 350. The engine's the same, transmission's the same, axle's the same, etc. Not worth the extra cost imo, and THAT is the ONLY reason I got a 250 instead of a 350, SRW, CC, 6.4...
dkf...yes, very similar, rear spring pack is the only other difference I can think of...certainly annoying that some states heavily penalize the weight difference, for me it's not an option regardless (though CA is ok anyway) as all too often i'll have between one and two cubic yards of product in the bed (I've hauled 3 cu yards of topsoil in my current dually when we were missing a trailer but I won't be doing that when I'm back to SRWs.)