Originally Posted by 2001400ex

Shhhhh, don't tell Josh, Bill, or Krewat!!!!!!

Originally Posted by bucci

I'm really not familar with the pickup dump beds so I'm afraid I won't be much help. A dump trailer is nice, but you need somewhere to keep it when not in use.

Originally Posted by 2001400ex

Shhhhh, don't tell Josh, Bill, or Krewat!!!!!!



Sorry to hear about your wife!

Yeah, I am stoked. I went to the St. Anthony dunes last weekend and finally got my boy that just turned 5 to dig it. The prior couple times at the dunes and other riding he didn't like going fast or up/down steep hills. But man, he loved it this last trip!

Thanks for the tips. We are staying at Driftwood. We plan to day trip to Winchester and/or Coos Bay as well for something to do.

I will say, my truck did really good last weekend towing the toy hauler. I was pulling about 10k with a lot of wind resistance, averaged about 70 mph, except for mountain passes where the speed limit is 55 in two of them. I got between 8.8 and 10.3 mpg every tank. Keep in mind the speed, wind resistance, and I was at 5,000 to 7,000 feet in elevation for half the trip and 3,000 to 5,000 the other half. So no "my v10 would have gotten 10 mpg" or "my 5.4 manual would have pulled that pass at 70 even though the speed limit was 55." (for comparison, my father in laws 2v v10 usually got 7 or so towing a 6,000 pound 5th wheel, never over 65, mostly at 60 mph on a similar trip.)

Originally Posted by Sand_Man

If you go to Winchester, make sure to keep an eye on your 5 year old, that place is a real zoo sometimes, I won't go back anytime soon. As for Coos Bay, I assume you mean Horsefall Dunes, it's fine but has smaller dunes, plus you get lots of locals out there, which makes every hill a meeting place . As for more tips on Florence, once you go down the sand access road out of Driftwood, kinda stay to the right and follow the treeline. That will take you to the bowls and dunes, otherwise you stay on the lower "dunes" which are pretty flat, but my kid loves them since they are perfect for a kid to ride. If you do that then you can get to the bigger dunes about a mile out when the lower dunes kinda blend in with the upper dunes. Lots of fun and I really wish I could be there. Someday all the duners on the FTE are going to have to plan a trip somehwere we can all meet, I think that would be a whole lot of fun! If my wife heals up as planned, I'll be at Florence around early March. Some friends are coming over from Nevada at that time, and although I'm not much on wet sand, it'll have to do.

Originally Posted by exiled

Man I wouldn't. Don't get me wrong I think its an awsome engine and before I got my psd I would have agreed. The 5.4 just doesn't have the tq. Why don't you shift your auto like a manual.

Originally Posted by 2001400ex

A few hang out and make comments like "a 3v v10 will out pull a 6.4" or "I would rather have a manual 5.4 than automatic 6.0".

Originally Posted by ChargersFanInCO

What, so the guy WITH a 3V V10 who says it can't hang with a 6.4 isn't good enough for you? you have to find someone who doesn't own one to ask the same old tired "Have you ever....?" question?

Originally Posted by phillips91

It's not about shifting it like a manual, it's about the manual having a low 1st gear and the automatic doesn't. The 5.4 has less tq, but when you use gearing to multiply tq a 5.4 will put more tq to the ground in 1st with a manual than a psd will in 1st with an automatic. 1st gear on a manual is 5.72 and 1st on a TS auto is 3.11. That makes a huge difference in getting a load moving. .

Originally Posted by Kajtek1

Tell me about it. I already posted my experience when my 7.3 blow the differential and I had to rent F550 with 6.0 and automatic.

Originally Posted by exiled

They are not bullet proof.keep the gas petal on the floor and you will find out soon enough.

Originally Posted by bill11012

Did you ever think about why so many people with 4.6/5.4/6.8s think that?

Originally Posted by AzPete

My work van, a '02, E350 15 pass. with a 5.4 just turned 406,000 miles this week. NO engine problems at all. This is the second van with this type use. The first was a '99 and we sold it with 475,000 miles on it with no major problems ever. Most engine work it had was an alternator at 333,000 miles.

Originally Posted by jethro b

I do expediting and know many owner/operators that have seen more than 500,000 miles from the 5.4 triton motors. I'm at 385K and still running 10W40 GTX year round.

Originally Posted by massdog_FX4

97 f150 reg cab 4x4 with the 5.4 460,000 miles never anything except for oil changes every 3500-5000miles

Originally Posted by phillips91

Just for giggles, let's do some math. Your 7.3 has 190 hp and 500 tq at 2,000 rpm. The 6.0 that you drove has 217 hp and 570 tq at 2,000 rpm. Comparing your truck to that 6.0, at 2,000 rpm in 1st gear, the tractive force is 13,859 for your 7.3 and 8,634 for the 6.0(assuming it had a 4.88 too). Your engine is much less powerful, but yet it still puts down pretty close to twice the power getting a load moving, which you have verified yourself by pulling the same trailer with both.

Originally Posted by Kajtek1

Tell me about it. I already posted my experience when my 7.3 blow the differential and I had to rent F550 with 6.0 and automatic. That thing not only almost cost me couple of accidents when it took 20 seconds to pull my trailer via intersections, but after night at motel it would not move the 14k trailer up the driveway. I had to back up on flatter spot to gain some momentum. Would I not have the space behind, I would have to call towing just to start moving.

Originally Posted by Kajtek1

Did you take those numbers from the engines charts? They look wrong to me. The 6 liter is high rpm engine and that was evident in just seconds after I got behind the wheel. While my 7.3 is pulling the 10k truck at 900 rpm on 4th gear, the 6 liter didn't have much torque at 1500 rpm. When my 7.3 takes almost all freeway grades on 6th even with 6000 lb payload, the 6 liter automatic was dropping 2 gears on freeway overpasses.
Than we can dispute the conditions of the engines. While my 7.3 seems to have excellent performance at 240k, the 6 liter was a rental with 40k.
I am not even going into mpg comparison.

Originally Posted by PorchFarms

Here is a picture of my truck hooked to my trailer The tank on the back has been replaced from 150 gal to 250 gal. Plus you can tell that water tank is not all the way full yet.