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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dkf
The thing is a LOT of people plunk down the cash (most more than likely finance) without batting an eye. Its somewhat amazing how the current trends and opinion of others can make people completely ignore their actual needs.
You really think we don't need 4000 sq houses for family of 3 and 3 tons of steel to carry single behind to work?
Than I remember that just few years ago driving H2 to work was a symbol status. Now seems everybody parked those gas guzzlers on backyards.
Good part is, that you can buy perfectly good truck with 7.3 for 5 to 8 grands. I guess we should thank those V10 owners who bash the diesel
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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I financed one vehicle back when I was 20 years old. I learned then to save the money and pay cash for ALL items that either get consumed or depreciate. Including F250's. Why pay the bank 6-7k over 5 years when I can keep that money and spend it as you want?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ChargersFanInCO
I financed one vehicle back when I was 20 years old. I learned then to save the money and pay cash for ALL items that either get consumed or depreciate. Including F250's. Why pay the bank 6-7k over 5 years when I can keep that money and spend it as you want?
Very simple.
TRUCK SUPPOSE TO MAKE YOU MONEY.
If you don't have the truck -you are not making the money you could.
Interest rate on car loans is way lower that the money you can make with the truck.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 12:04 PM
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A Vehical is a reflection of the owner.
V10 - quiet, strong, practical, does the job without fanfare.
PSD - LOUD, strong, does the job and needs to let you know it.
Over all for most people the gasser is the better choice.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Zedrive
A Vehical is a reflection of the owner.
V10 - quiet, strong, practical, does the job without fanfare.
PSD - LOUD, strong, does the job and needs to let you know it.
Over all for most people the gasser is the better choice.
Let me put pictures behind your conclusion.
Here is V10


And here PSD
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Zedrive
A Vehical is a reflection of the owner.
V10 - quiet, strong, practical, does the job without fanfare.
PSD - LOUD, strong, does the job and needs to let you know it.
Over all for most people the gasser is the better choice.
My PSD is quieter than you think. Put a muffler on your V10, and my PSD is way quieter.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
Let me put pictures behind your conclusion.
Here is V10


And here PSD
In that guys case, I agree....
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
Very simple.
TRUCK SUPPOSE TO MAKE YOU MONEY.
If you don't have the truck -you are not making the money you could.
Interest rate on car loans is way lower that the money you can make with the truck.
Most don't agree with me, but if I made $56k last year. Its still better for me to finance the truck than going broke. That leaves me money to keep running. However I've only bought 1 brand new truck for myself. My wife's last 5 cars/truck has been new.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 08:24 AM
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Not to mention, if you are in business for yourself, interest/depreciation or lease payments are tax deductible. That combined with low upfront costs make financing/leasing VERY attractive.

But somehow, I don't expect math to really mean much to some here.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Not to mention, if you are in business for yourself, interest/depreciation or lease payments are tax deductible. That combined with low upfront costs make financing/leasing VERY attractive.

But somehow, I don't expect math to really mean much to some here.
The interest/depreciation can be amortized or taken in one year. My truck is being claimed as a business expense, and the entire purchase price will be deducted, though I won't get close to what I paid...duh. It doesn't save that much money going the other way, and it doesn't save much money doing it my way either, but every penny helps. Taxes suck. Period.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 01:11 PM
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I cant imagine Owning a Business that I needed a New truck at 56k...and Having to Finance it If I have a successful business I am paying Cash. Plain and simple, What happens to your truck, Business, and based off the fact you guys are Financing and Probably like your FICO score when You have no business or its slow.

Here is what happens...

Banks says give me back MY TRUCK... Because it is theirs...
you probably have a business loan if your financing a truck.... that gets taken.
what ever they cant get from that if your not incorporated they then come after your personal stuff...

The deduction you get for seems very small and insignificant.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by driximus
I cant imagine Owning a Business that I needed a New truck at 56k...and Having to Finance it If I have a successful business I am paying Cash. Plain and simple, What happens to your truck, Business, and based off the fact you guys are Financing and Probably like your FICO score when You have no business or its slow.

Here is what happens...

Banks says give me back MY TRUCK... Because it is theirs...
you probably have a business loan if your financing a truck.... that gets taken.
what ever they cant get from that if your not incorporated they then come after your personal stuff...

The deduction you get for seems very small and insignificant.
That's why I pay cash. Others just like to argue with me.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by driximus
I cant imagine Owning a Business that I needed a New truck at 56k...and Having to Finance it If I have a successful business I am paying Cash. Plain and simple, What happens to your truck, Business, and based off the fact you guys are Financing and Probably like your FICO score when You have no business or its slow.

Here is what happens...

Banks says give me back MY TRUCK... Because it is theirs...
you probably have a business loan if your financing a truck.... that gets taken.
what ever they cant get from that if your not incorporated they then come after your personal stuff...

The deduction you get for seems very small and insignificant.
Sometimes it's better to use somebody else's money and keep your cash on hand for other things. Just have to sit down before hand and push the pencil to see what works better for you.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
Sometimes it's better to use somebody else's money and keep your cash on hand for other things. Just have to sit down before hand and push the pencil to see what works better for you.

Never have I seen a vehicle get repo'd for being paid off.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
Sometimes it's better to use somebody else's money and keep your cash on hand for other things. Just have to sit down before hand and push the pencil to see what works better for you.

Very true. When it comes to business there are only two scenarios really. You are either growing, or you are dying. Being "status quo" is just being stagnant and a slow death. It's a rare business that can generate enough cash to fuel its growth. Business and finance go hand in hand. Generally there are simply too many things that need done at any given time. It can be done but those are rare times and they never last.

In the mid 90's this economy was booming so hard it was difficult to imagine it being able to sustain that kind of growth. In the end it couldn't, which I expected, but while it was I generated enormous amounts of money. Rolling in it to the tune of buying a new furnace and paying $400,000 CASH for it. Buying new truck/s and paying cash for those at $35K +.

Those were extraordinary times. To say that you are going to run a business and say you won't buy anything until you can pay cash is being....business naive at best.
 
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