Gas vs PSD
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Modular motor junkie
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Had to be towed home.
I got this truck cheap with engine problems.
Put a cheap used engine in it, but it never ran right.
Went through all kinds of things trying to find why and never could.
Now I know...
My other V10 still runs like new though.
I did not use it becuase it does not have a tach.
Last edited by bill11012; Dec 1, 2010 at 11:31 PM. Reason: wrong info
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Nope, it blew in less than 10 seconds.
Had to be towed home.
I got this truck cheap with engine problems.
Put a cheap used engine in it, but it never ran right.
Went through all kinds of things trying to find why and never could.
Now I know...
My other V10 still runs like new though.
I did not use it becuase it does not have a tach.
Had to be towed home.
I got this truck cheap with engine problems.
Put a cheap used engine in it, but it never ran right.
Went through all kinds of things trying to find why and never could.
Now I know...
My other V10 still runs like new though.
I did not use it becuase it does not have a tach.
Sorry bout the truck.
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From: Texas
Yes, its uploading to youtube now.
What are the odds of it blowing while I had a camara going?
Playing the video back, the camara picked up some noises that I could not hear.
Its just kind of a " you get what you pay for " kind of thing.
Frustrating, but I have so little money in the truck that I can't be mad.
What are the odds of it blowing while I had a camara going?
Playing the video back, the camara picked up some noises that I could not hear.
Its just kind of a " you get what you pay for " kind of thing.
Frustrating, but I have so little money in the truck that I can't be mad.
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Words can no describe how stupid I feel.
Words can no describe how stupid I feel.
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Bill, I bet when you take it apart, the engine starved for oil because the pickup was clogged.
Wasn't this the engine from the guy who bought a truck and the engine was encrusted with filth inside? And pulled it and put another motor in it and then sold the old one to you?
Or am I thinking about something else?
Wasn't this the engine from the guy who bought a truck and the engine was encrusted with filth inside? And pulled it and put another motor in it and then sold the old one to you?
Or am I thinking about something else?
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It IS measurable? Or it IS UNmeasurable?
Momentum is the combination of velocity and mass (weight). The heavier the object (mass), or the faster it travels (velocity), momentum increases.
p=mv (where p=momentum, m=mass, v=velocity)
Let's use this for an example of momentum:
I have a 7000lbs truck - my Superduty. I drive it at 50MPH and hit a brick wall. I impart a certain amount of energy to the brick wall. 350000 is the momentum in terms of MPH/lbs (I think, but that's not the point).
If I drive my 3500lbs Cougar at 100MPH, I impart the same amount of momentum into the brick wall. 350000.
Momentum is much like Horsepower. Same concept. Velocity is RPM, Mass is Torque. I can have half the torque, but spin it twice as fast, and I can accomplish the same thing.
You have to swing a 2lbs hammer twice as hard to make it do the work of a 4lbs hammer.
Momentum is the combination of velocity and mass (weight). The heavier the object (mass), or the faster it travels (velocity), momentum increases.
p=mv (where p=momentum, m=mass, v=velocity)
Let's use this for an example of momentum:
I have a 7000lbs truck - my Superduty. I drive it at 50MPH and hit a brick wall. I impart a certain amount of energy to the brick wall. 350000 is the momentum in terms of MPH/lbs (I think, but that's not the point).
If I drive my 3500lbs Cougar at 100MPH, I impart the same amount of momentum into the brick wall. 350000.
Momentum is much like Horsepower. Same concept. Velocity is RPM, Mass is Torque. I can have half the torque, but spin it twice as fast, and I can accomplish the same thing.
You have to swing a 2lbs hammer twice as hard to make it do the work of a 4lbs hammer.
Momentum is the linear movement of the mass once its gotten to a speed. Your sitting still has weight, gravity, some times wind and some other out forces fighting to keep it at rest. So say your at a stop sign on a post 35 mph road. When you take out your battling this forces to get any certain speed. For every mph you get your creating momentum. Once you get to target speed let's say 35 mph you gained your momentum. You have beaten the outside forces to keep you at rest.
Now your talking about kentic energy. Momentum doesn't come to rest. You can't always get the kentic energy needed with half the mass by making it up with speed. Sometimes the speed isn't achievable. In your example a 4lb hammer needed but only have a 2lb hammer. So if you don't have the space to accelerate to twice the speed the 2lb hammer won't make the needed kentic energy.
I like this conversation cause it might actually explain why I like my diesel over a gas. I'm not dependent on high rpms to make momentum. This isn't really worded right. I can't help it I'm a dum redneck, but I'm trying.
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Bill, I'm sorry about the truck.
Remember that this would have happened at some point regardless of whether or not you went out and tried this video. You just hastened the inevitable.
What's the story behind the engine? How many miles are on it?
Remember that this would have happened at some point regardless of whether or not you went out and tried this video. You just hastened the inevitable.
What's the story behind the engine? How many miles are on it?
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All I'm trying to say is that you CAN use a lower-torque engine that revs higher to do the same amount of WORK. Theoretically.
The V10 comes close to the PSD, depending on year and gearing. I personally never said it would do the job better, faster, yada yada yada. And I don't think many V10'ers in this thread have either.
It comes close, and SOMETIMES can actually do it BETTER, again, depending on year, gearing, altitude, etc.
Not sure of the total miles, but....My-Pipeline figured he'd get another clean low-miles motor and swap it into his "new" truck instead of relying on this engine that obviously had seen better days.
Bill got that engine from Mr-Pipeline and installed it into his truck that he just bought, not sure what the history was with THAT truck.
Anyway, Bill's engine was living on borrowed time to begin with. He changed the oil pickup tube because it was horribly clogged, but I suspect either the oil pump was already shot or the passages to/from the oil pump were clogged like the pickup.
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I got the feeling he went out there and ran that thing...
Bill, since that one is getting explained away as being old, varnished, etc, go do the same test with your other one and we'll BOTH send you $20.00 for gas. $40.00 for 20 minutes is $120.00 an hour! (I claim NO responsibility for the varnishing that may occur to your newer engine when your oil boils off, and and all parts that get strewn along the roadway, or any environmental disasters that the EPA finds later)
Bill, since that one is getting explained away as being old, varnished, etc, go do the same test with your other one and we'll BOTH send you $20.00 for gas. $40.00 for 20 minutes is $120.00 an hour! (I claim NO responsibility for the varnishing that may occur to your newer engine when your oil boils off, and and all parts that get strewn along the roadway, or any environmental disasters that the EPA finds later)
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I got the feeling he went out there and ran that thing...
Bill, since that one is getting explained away as being old, varnished, etc, go do the same test with your other one and we'll BOTH send you $20.00 for gas. $40.00 for 20 minutes is $120.00 an hour! (I claim NO responsibility for the varnishing that may occur to your newer engine when your oil boils off, and and all parts that get strewn along the roadway, or any environmental disasters that the EPA finds later)
Bill, since that one is getting explained away as being old, varnished, etc, go do the same test with your other one and we'll BOTH send you $20.00 for gas. $40.00 for 20 minutes is $120.00 an hour! (I claim NO responsibility for the varnishing that may occur to your newer engine when your oil boils off, and and all parts that get strewn along the roadway, or any environmental disasters that the EPA finds later)