Bought this today:




Guess what's inside?



Ain't it purdy?

 

Nice looking truck!!!! Just remember, Bill and Josh will outpull you at low elevation!!!!

 

A 3mpg differnce to me means a min. Of $91 a monthm I say over $1000 a year. For me that makes a differnce worth talking about.

 

Humm... all F450 pickups have PSD's, you can only get the V10 if you buy the F450 Chassis Cab.

Anyway, you made a great choice seeing as the 2011 F450 are really just F350 on roids and are lacking payload capacity compared to the one you have.

Comgrats! I like the red, my F250 was red: this WAS mine Cars for Sale: 2009 Ford F250 4x4 Crew Cab Super Duty in Grafton, WV 26354: Truck Details - 284775864 - AutoTrader.com

I noticed your in Ohio and in the background there is a Texas flag. You having it shipped to Ohio?

 

SO that means you drive about 90,000 miles a year? Dam.

 

Quite the opposite actually. My mileage sucks, I averaged around 11 mpg with the F250. My 4 cylinder Saab gets 16 (EPA rated for 21 and 31 mpg). Short frequent trips kill your mpg and are very hard on your engine.

The key is that I don't go far, so I could careless about mpg because I'm not traveling many miles.

A friend of mine drove in the same stop and go conditions I drive in, but he had the 6.4 and only averages 13 on a daily basis. Even though he gets better mpg than my F250 did, he still spent more because his fuel costs more. On the highway or towing he kicked my butt, but that is not what we did on a day to day basis.

 

I did the V10 thing. Actually, I'm STILL doing the V10 thing in my Excursion and for what I want it to do it's a fine engine but for ME, the V10 is not the one for the new job I want done.

Not a clue. The '11s have a beast of an engine but on the superdutys I can't get past those god-awful ugly new rear fender flares they're using. To me they look like an after market accessory someone buys to turn an SRW truck into a DRW truck. Bleh! Other than that, nice trucks.


That's no fun. I flew to Houston and I'm driving it back right now. Currently in Louisiana and have to get back on the road.

 

So how much, percentage-wise, of the US is above 3000 feet?

 

Perfectly understandable, neither engine fits every application.

The 2010 F450 had a payload over 6,000 lbs while the 2011 has a payload under 5000lbs. If you are towing a goosneck or fifthwheel, that number can become very important in making sure you don't go over the GVWR and stay legal. If you back calculate and assume your trailer has a 25% tongue weight, the 2011 F450 will max out 20k lbs where as your F450 (the 2008-2010) will max out around 25k lbs.

So the engine might be better for the 2011, but the chassis is better for the '08-'10 models because they are actually the F450/550 chassis where as the 2011 is the F350 chassis with some extras. This is why the GVWR on your truck (hte F450 '08-'10) is 14,300 lbs and the GVWR on the 2011 F450 is 13,000 lbs.

And yes, the the dually flairs look like poo on the new models.


Sweet, made that drive a few times with a horse trailer... It's long lol.

 

Dunno'...All of Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Idaho, 1/3rd of California, (San Bernardino and Sierra Mountains) parts of WA, most of Alaska, etc. All the pretty areas... Yellowstone, Tahoe, Vail, Breckenridge, Yosemite, Glacier, Rainier, Hood, Shasta, (Volcanoes) Denali, RMNP, and many many more. Arizona too...Grand Canyon National Park on the rim... I didn't see Long Island on the list...hmmm

 

There's whole stretches up Upstate NY that are "pretty"... and are below 3K feet ... Pennsylvania, New Jersey (well, the rural areas anyway), etc. etc.

 

lol...Upstate New York is pretty in an Upstate New York kinda' way, but not like Yellowstone...I like WV too, but they need to destroy some DNA strings before I could move there...(Nothing personal JR) Pennsylvania is where this great country started for the most part so it has it's beauties too. Relocate half of the population and I could live there, too. My point is if you grab a vacation book (not the State-sponsored ones) and look at them, 90%+ of the areas they hype minus Hawaii, are above 3000'.

 

Why 3,000 feet? I've had my truck to about 5,000 feet and the difference wasn't THAT great. There was a little loose of power, but not like it couldn't do what I needed it to. Above 7,500 might be tough for it though.

 

I don't think you're getting the point. I don't drive through Yellowstone, so what's the point of comparing my engine to yours?

Come on down to my level, find a 3-valve V10 and THEN compare.

Oh wait, that would be comparing from MY perspective. Which would be cheating ... or lying

 

I don't know why he chose 3000'. The Army defines anything above 6000' as an acclimation zone where the blood takes about 2 weeks to build up the necessary hemoglobin to function the same as at sea level. The problem is, the hemoglobin goes away 3 days after returning to lower elevations and the process starts back up again. The "Mile High Advantage" the Bronco's enjoy is simply because they are used to sucking wind when they get to play at home. Their hemoglobin levels are about the same as the other teams throughout the season. Source: ESPN.com: Page 2 : TMQ AFC Preview (See note 2 about 1/3rd down the page) The visiting teams build up enough for a football game in 2-3 days because they are already super-conditioned.

It's different in the vehicles above 5000' and even the dyno's for the AGT-1500 (Tank Turbine Engine) have different ECU settings for altitudes above 500'. Before a deployment the mechanics are running around tuning the engines for where they're going, or they do it when they get there and the tanks start wheezing or blowing smoke. The PCM's in our vehicles adjust for any elevation automatically, but in an NA engine they start to suffer noticeably around 6000' and above. Colorado Springs (Fort Carson) is 6300'. I live at 7200' and when I go on a vacation to California I feel it when I return for a few days. My NA vehicles feel it up here, and haul *** down in Cali.