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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
Have you seen one of them pulling 150 tons Jumbo Jet? Go on youtube
Once again, I'm still not impressed. Virtually any vehicle put into low range could do that. I bet even my V6 Ranger could. When you have a huge gearing advantage - such as when you are in low range, you can move just about anything. Certainly not fast, but you can move it.

Originally Posted by Jrfish007
I think it's impressive for a mid sized SUV engine, not as a full sized super duty engine. Imagine getting an Explorer with an engine like that in it... I know the V10 TDI was a favorite of Baja teams and such because of the power.

They did not actually drop the V10, it is still available in most other parts of the world. The 3L diesel has also been available throughout most of the world too for some time. They just swapped the V10 for the V6 in the US market because the V6 gets better mpg and I'm not sure the V10 could meet emissions requirements.
It has more then enough power, I wasn't impressed by its fuel economy.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Lead Head
It has more then enough power, I wasn't impressed by its fuel economy.
I always thought the engine was ment to be a powerful engine, not really an economic engine considering the cost of the V10 TDI's was quite a bit higher than the gasser models.

I think the V6 TDI is more along an economic TDI.

But yes, it's fuel economy was a little less than stellar.

I was in the market briefly for one to tow a small horse trailer, but their reliability stopped me from buying it. The engines were reliable, it was just the rest of the SUV.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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So welcome to the VW TDI forum....hahahaha
 
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jac08f250
Mine does.
How many times can you do that before it blows up?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
How many times can you do that before it blows up?
Hmmm lets see here since I do it every time I hit the pedal I bet alot. These 6.4's are built alot more durable then the previous diesel engines. Hell these engines can handle 600-650 hp very easy and still get a good life out of them. There are guys with over 100k miles with bigger tunes then mine and they haven't had a problem yet. So next question.

Are there any v-10's out there that even come close going 0-60 in 7 seconds. Don't worry I'll wait for the answer.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jac08f250
Hmmm lets see here since I do it every time I hit the pedal I bet alot. These 6.4's are built alot more durable then the previous diesel engines. Hell these engines can handle 600-650 hp very easy and still get a good life out of them. There are guys with over 100k miles with bigger tunes then mine and they haven't had a problem yet. So next question.

Are there any v-10's out there that even come close going 0-60 in 7 seconds. Don't worry I'll wait for the answer.
Since we're not talking stock-to-stock: My 2-valver, with an 87 performance tune, cheapo headers, 3.73 gears and 285/75R16 tires can do it in 9.02 seconds. Stock, it was 10 seconds. If I were to get 4.30's, it would be a bit lower than that. Since 4.30's are 15% more torque-to-the-ground than 3.73's, theoretically shaving 15% of the time off, that would bring it down to 7.6. That's a big generalization on the amount of time shaved off, but 15% more thrust versus mass, I think that's about right.

Since I have bigger tires than stock, a 4.56 gear would be even better.

If I had a turbo with electronic controls, or a blower that I could change the pulley on (like the Lightning), I could easily get that down to 7 seconds.

Now, say it with me: "I can do 7 second 0-60 because I have a turbo-charged engine that just by dumping more fuel and air into it, I can yield big power gains".

You can NOT say a stock 6.4 will do a 7 second 0-60
 
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
Since we're not talking stock-to-stock: My 2-valver, with an 87 performance tune, cheapo headers, 3.73 gears and 285/75R16 tires can do it in 9.02 seconds. Stock, it was 10 seconds. If I were to get 4.30's, it would be a bit lower than that. Since 4.30's are 15% more torque-to-the-ground than 3.73's, theoretically shaving 15% of the time off, that would bring it down to 7.6. That's a big generalization on the amount of time shaved off, but 15% more thrust versus mass, I think that's about right.

Since I have bigger tires than stock, a 4.56 gear would be even better.

If I had a turbo with electronic controls, or a blower that I could change the pulley on (like the Lightning), I could easily get that down to 7 seconds.

Now, say it with me: "I can do 7 second 0-60 because I have a turbo-charged engine that just by dumping more fuel and air into it, I can yield big power gains".

You can NOT say a stock 6.4 will do a 7 second 0-60
Sounds like someone is jealous that they didn't get a diesel. I can't help it that my truck came from the factory with a turbo. Also I'm running under 7 seconds with 3.55's. Hell If I jump up to 4.30's or 4.56's like you want to I might be under 6 seconds. Plus I think my truck probably weighs 1k pounds more then you. My engine weighs what about 500-600 more then yours plus I have a tommy lift on the back of my truck that weighs 400 pounds. So hell I could be mid 6 second range if I didn't have that tommy lift. Oh yeah I got bigger tires then stock also not too much bigger but they are bigger.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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jac08f250 - Grammar correction. You use 'then' when you should use 'than'.
Example: "Plus I think my truck probably weighs 1k pounds more <i>then</i> you."
Correct: It weighs 1K more pounds <i>than</i> you.

End of rant.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jac08f250
Sounds like someone is jealous that they didn't get a diesel.
Not at all, and. you really have to stop acting like this.

What I'm pointing out is, if I go for a bunch of performance goodies, your boast of 7 second 0-60 doesn't mean a whole lot because you already have a tune and a DPF-delete. I can come close, without even putting a blower/turbo on it.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
Not at all, and. you really have to stop acting like this.

What I'm pointing out is, if I go for a bunch of performance goodies, your boast of 7 second 0-60 doesn't mean a whole lot because you already have a tune and a DPF-delete. I can come close, without even putting a blower/turbo on it.
No you are futher then what you think if you are not adding any kind of boost. Even if you put 4.30's or 4.56's you might be mid to low 8 second range. You are still more then a second behind me. And remember I only have 3.55's and I can run that under no boost at the line. I haven't tried to see what I run by revving the boost up some and put in 4wd.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
Not at all, and. you really have to stop acting like this.

What I'm pointing out is, if I go for a bunch of performance goodies, your boast of 7 second 0-60 doesn't mean a whole lot because you already have a tune and a DPF-delete. I can come close, without even putting a blower/turbo on it.
He's probably still upset because no one gave him any satisfaction in his thread why he switched to diesel.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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I live in Colorado and have an 03 6.0 PSD pulling a fifth wheel. My total weight is 22,000 lbs. I have been up some pretty good hills here and the diesel has never had a problem. I go up to the Eisenhower tunnel in 3rd and 4th gear and up over Vail in 3rd. The tow haul has been a life saver on the brakes. Wolf Creek pass is a 2nd gear pull in spots. So I guess can a V10 pull a 6% grade for several miles at 40 mph with a total weight of 11 tons, 22,000 lbs?
 
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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So I guess can a V10 pull a 6% grade for several miles at 40 mph with a total weight of 11 tons, 22,000 lbs?
Yes it can.

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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 12:11 PM
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OK, so the diesels pull a little better, I still wouldn't trade my V-10 for one even if the tooth fairy left a new crated one outside with a note under my pillow.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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OK, so the diesels pull a little better, I still wouldn't trade my V-10 for one even if the tooth fairy left a new crated one outside with a note under my pillow.
Wow, that is a bold statement. I would say that less than 5% of the people in this thread would have a v10 if the diesel was the same price...
 
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