Gas vs PSD
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6.7 PSD can run 20% bio diesel and V10 can't run E20...
So can't we discuss where that bio poo can come from and if it's ever going to happen? (going to be able to a pump and actually buy 20% bio that is).
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Sorry. The discussion went to the cost of diesel, to which the convo went to why diesel is so much more than gas. Didn't mean for it to get political.
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The V10 is going to be in the F650/750 and according to Ford it sounds like there's going to be a flex-fuel version available. 6.7 is not offered in the F650/750.
So there.
Oh, and E20? That's 20% ethanol. Here in New York, we're already running E10 for the past decade it seems, and 20% is about what they find when it's actually tested. So I'm probably already running E20
So there.
Oh, and E20? That's 20% ethanol. Here in New York, we're already running E10 for the past decade it seems, and 20% is about what they find when it's actually tested. So I'm probably already running E20
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The V10 is going to be in the F650/750 and according to Ford it sounds like there's going to be a flex-fuel version available. 6.7 is not offered in the F650/750.
So there.
Oh, and E20? That's 20% ethanol. Here in New York, we're already running E10 for the past decade it seems, and 20% is about what they find when it's actually tested. So I'm probably already running E20
So there.
Oh, and E20? That's 20% ethanol. Here in New York, we're already running E10 for the past decade it seems, and 20% is about what they find when it's actually tested. So I'm probably already running E20
However, my V10, and all the ones in the F250/F350 pickups, are not E20. In fact my gas cap has an E5 symbol then an E20 symbol with a big red line through it. It's on the opposite side of the BP logo
IT would interesting to test the fuel around here and find if it something like that. Personally I would pissed if I was buying E20 when I was told it was E10, ethanol doesn't give as good of mpg...
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I heard, not sure if it's true, but the versions of the V10 will be able to run 90% ethanol along with some other alternative fuels.
However, my V10, and all the ones in the F250/F350 pickups, are not E20. In fact my gas cap has an E5 symbol then an E20 symbol with a big red line through it. It's on the opposite side of the BP logo
However, my V10, and all the ones in the F250/F350 pickups, are not E20. In fact my gas cap has an E5 symbol then an E20 symbol with a big red line through it. It's on the opposite side of the BP logo
And, the V10 is no longer offered in the F250/350, so it's a moot point. There IS NO V10 in the F250/350 for 2011, conveniently the same year the 6.7 came out.
So the only comparisons we can make between the 6.7 and the V10 are between the F250/350/450/550 w/6.7, and the upcoming F650/750 and existing F450/550 (with or without the 6-speed TS) with the V10.
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Well, like I said, New York Metro area and many other "green" states use E10 already for emissions. E20 would hardly be a big jump.
And, the V10 is no longer offered in the F250/350, so it's a moot point. There IS NO V10 in the F250/350 for 2011, conveniently the same year the 6.7 came out.
So the only comparisons we can make between the 6.7 and the V10 are between the F250/350/450/550 w/6.7, and the upcoming F650/750 and existing F450/550 (with or without the 6-speed TS) with the V10.
And, the V10 is no longer offered in the F250/350, so it's a moot point. There IS NO V10 in the F250/350 for 2011, conveniently the same year the 6.7 came out.
So the only comparisons we can make between the 6.7 and the V10 are between the F250/350/450/550 w/6.7, and the upcoming F650/750 and existing F450/550 (with or without the 6-speed TS) with the V10.
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Which is why they replaced it with a higher revving lower torque 6.2L V8, right?
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Oh, and we never landed on the moon.
(How's that for a new direction for this thread?)
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Hard to say, really.
Went from diesel vs. gas to mindless attacks on "big oil", followed by misdirected anger against BP, then PSD vs. medium duty.
I've been too busy to participate lately...looks like I missed out on a lot of fun!
Went from diesel vs. gas to mindless attacks on "big oil", followed by misdirected anger against BP, then PSD vs. medium duty.
I've been too busy to participate lately...looks like I missed out on a lot of fun!
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If NASA were to build a completely new space shuttle they would use a 6.8L V10 Gasser because the PowerStroke is too heavy and diesel fuel would gel up in space. Therefore, V10 wins!
Oh, and we never landed on the moon.
(How's that for a new direction for this thread?)
Oh, and we never landed on the moon.
(How's that for a new direction for this thread?)
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Read the title. It's "V10 vs. PSD".
Since the V10 is now only available for 2011 in the 450/550 line, if you want to argue 6.7 vs. V10, you HAVE to talk about the 450/550.
If you want to argue V10 vs. PSD in the 2012 650/750 line, be my guest - as in PSD IS NOT AVAILABLE. (chuckle)