Gas vs PSD

The tach signal is usually taken from either the points, or the output from the electronic ignition to the coil. Some had a direct-driven mechanical tach, using what could be called a speedometer cable, driving a gauge that is basically the mechanical equivalent of a speedometer.
I've never EVER heard of a car/truck/road-vehicle using the alternator as a tach signal. MOTORCYCLES on the other hand, DO sometimes (often?) use the output from the stator (charging circuit).
On the 7.3, the PCM will drive the tach, using the crank or cam sensor to determine engine RPM, just like gassers.

The tach signal is usually taken from either the points, or the output from the electronic ignition to the coil. Some had a direct-driven mechanical tach, using what could be called a speedometer cable, driving a gauge that is basically the mechanical equivalent of a speedometer.
I've never EVER heard of a car/truck/road-vehicle using the alternator as a tach signal. MOTORCYCLES on the other hand, DO sometimes (often?) use the output from the stator (charging circuit).
On the 7.3, the PCM will drive the tach, using the crank or cam sensor to determine engine RPM, just like gassers.

The tach signal is usually taken from either the points, or the output from the electronic ignition to the coil. Some had a direct-driven mechanical tach, using what could be called a speedometer cable, driving a gauge that is basically the mechanical equivalent of a speedometer.
I've never EVER heard of a car/truck/road-vehicle using the alternator as a tach signal. MOTORCYCLES on the other hand, DO sometimes (often?) use the output from the stator (charging circuit).
On the 7.3, the PCM will drive the tach, using the crank or cam sensor to determine engine RPM, just like gassers.
Yes, I know some had direct driven mechanical, but I think most of those are pretty rare. I knew some one that ripped one off his '72 Roller on some road debris, but other than that I haven't seen many of those. Not that I'm a mechanic or anything...
On the point issue though... As was already pointed out to me, PSD's don't have those, nor ignition coils. Most cars that have ignition coils though, will probably just use the computer directly. If they are old enough to have points, they may use that. I know when I replaced gauges in my '73 Camaro, you just connected the tach to cigarette lighter where it read the AC frequency on the current through the car. I thought that was kind of hoaky and upgraded to one that measured from the points.
Here is an example of a cheap tach:
Sunpro ACP7901 - Sunpro Sun Super Tach II Tachometers - Overview - SummitRacing.com
install pdf, has you connecting to the battery to measure the AC current from the "charging circuit".
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...%20english.pdf
You could try to measure each time the points connected and the plugs fired causing a drop in voltage, but I figured that would be hard considering some cars used capacitors to help charge the condenser (I think Chryslers used to do this), and that give a very weird signal.
Thought I read the AC signal they measured was the result of the alternator, but perhaps it the points firing that caused the AC signal. In either case, it is an indirect measurement that can be alternated by many things.
In any case, the 7.3 was the only engine I wasn't sure if the tach was from the from the computer or not. Since it is, all PSD and V10's take from the computer. So the discusion is off topic.

Honestly, I haven't check the one my F250. I know my F150's were pretty close, maybe 1 mph off at 70, closer than my Honda's and my current Saab's though. Maybe foreign cars use the wrong conversion factors to screw with us Americans.

To clarify my previous statement, I rounded the rpm to 3000 at 75 mph, when it is about 2900. My rear is 4.3 from what I remember and I have 6-speeds.
Still pretty annoying when you are burning fuel unnecessary turning high rpm driving with small or no load.
I posted the picture before, but even with this load I was driving on 6th gear even on slight inclines.
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Sunpro ACP7901 - Sunpro Sun Super Tach II Tachometers - Overview - SummitRacing.com
install pdf, has you connecting to the battery to measure the AC current from the "charging circuit".
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...%20english.pdf
You could try to measure each time the points connected and the plugs fired causing a drop in voltage, but I figured that would be hard considering some cars used capacitors to help charge the condenser (I think Chryslers used to do this), and that give a very weird signal.
Capacitor to help charge the condensor?
Sheesh. I dunno where people get this stuff

Maybe my old car had the "green" wire integrated into the gauge cluster or something...
they used a capacitor to help build the charge the condenser (aka coil). The capacitor allowed for the ignition system to "charge" all the time instead of only between contacts from the points. They did it because they ran a little higher voltage than most other cars. I'm not sure if they did it in all their cars, but they did it in the 440 6-pack. besides, Dodge always does weird things, specially with their electrical stuff
that is true. But for the Saab, someone over at Saabcentral had their speedo verified on a dyno, and it was off. Anyway, I used to have the papers from that lawsuit (actually class action) with Honda, not sure if I moved them yet though since I got rid of that car about 5 years ago.

To clarify my previous statement, I rounded the rpm to 3000 at 75 mph, when it is about 2900. My rear is 4.3 from what I remember and I have 6-speeds.
Still pretty annoying when you are burning fuel unnecessary turning high rpm driving with small or no load.
I posted the picture before, but even with this load I was driving on 6th gear even on slight inclines.
it looks like your rear springs are a rubber band ready to snap
OK, way off topic.










Thankfully I didn't get written proof, just verbal.