Wow, if you are pulling 12,000 horses that is 18,000,000 lbs of horse if they each weigh 1,500 lbs each. How much does the trailer weigh and how long is it?? Sorry man, I had to

What part of WV do you go through? I think there are only 3 counties there that I haven't been to, so I am pretty familiar with some of the climbs there.

 

Actually they do run on a type of diesel. i know for a fact as i work on the F-22. JP8 is a diesel kerosene mixture much like winter diesel. and you could run it in a regular truck. its used in all the diesel age equipment. (power carts, air conditioners, hydro carts, ect)

the air force just tested bio diesel in an A-10 with no problems too.

 

With a load like that its a good thing he got the V10!

 

When it comes to boosting, I'm not sure either. I know I've heard of a few supercharded V10's that put some wicked numbers down, but haven't heard of turbo V10's. The V10's have basically the same internals as the 5.4, and that can take some boost, so I don't think it would be to bad. PSD are far better for moding and will be cheaper to make gobs of power from and probably be more reilable. You can bet that boost on the V10 won't help your mpg either.

In the end though, making more power won't allow you to tow/haul more, agian I come back to the point I'm not interested in it. unless I hit the lotto for a few million, then I can afford to find out

 

I know JP8 is used in diesels, I wouldn't want in anything I owned though.

what exactly is "type" of diesel. I mean when you break it down both diesel and gas are just hydrocarbon chains. You can call gasoline a "type" of diesel if you wanted to.

Point is, the stuff you go to the gas station and put in your truck is not what they are running jets on like he claimed.

 

the two turbo'ed. i wonder what is better?

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It has proven that you know next to nothing about gassers but you still think they are worthless. Unfortunatly this is how a lot of diesel purists are.

I'm not saying the V10 is the greatest nor the PSD is the greatest, each has there own application. If your going to bash one or the other just try base it on facts not pure speculation.

 

I live in Mon county and generally take the horse over to Preston for trail riding. But I will some times go south where the real hills are and go to Knoxville or Charlotte. Even went to Florida once with it, but decided to leave the horse home and just fly after that, spent to much in fuel (that trip was with a 7.3 too)

You probably know the are better than I do then lol I just moved here in August for a job. Lived in Ohio before this.

 

I owned a 08 f-250 5.4 and I know it's nothing compare to my 2010 6.4L. I get better mpg out of the psd, it's faster then my gasser, and my psd has less gears. The only thing I liked about the gasser was when I got rid of it.

 

You can do it, but I don't htink he pulling down the road at 70 mph like that. Ever since I bent the frame on my chevy doing that, I've been pretty careful about that. I also only bought Ford after that too.

The real reason I say that he was using a medium duty truck is because he said Cummins. So that means he either had a medium or heavy duty truck or he was using one of those D-things.

 

your PSD has less gears? Both of those truck have the same transmission.

 

my 5.4 had 3.73's and my psd has 3.55's and the diesel feels alot faster.

 

ahhh... Well, you PSD is probably faster than a V10 too and certainly gets better mpg.

 

YouTube - My Turbo V10 Excursion doing a Big smokey burnout.

The guy who owns this Ex is a member of FTE. Heres the thread. Excursion - King of SUVs - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

 

You can expect a 3 to 5% loss of performance per 1,000 feet of elevation depending on atmospheric conditions such as temperature, and barometric pressure. So at 11,000 feet, a 3v V10 has anywhere from 162 to 243 hp. Ouch!! Who knows what the performance loss of a psd is. It depends on the excess capacity of the turbo at sea level. I'd really like to know. From experience, I'd guess that a performance drop isn't noticeable until about 10,000 feet.

So tell me, Bill, what is "normal elevation"? Being that I live at about 8,000 feet most of the year, anything below 6,000 is low country and if you're below 4,000, you might as well be on the sea floor. Can I equate "normal elevation" to average elevation? Did you know that the average elevation of the United States is about 2,500 feet? So on the average US road, a 3v V10 has anywhere from 307 to 334 hp, about equivalent to a 6.0.

My point here is not to say that the V10 sucks. What I am saying is that making a blanket statement that a V10 can pull harder on the same hill with the same load is not necessarily the case. Being that the 3v V10 has a roughly 3% edge on the 6.4 in terms of hp means that once you hit 1,000 feet of elevation, they are equal. Above that and the advantage goes to the 6.4. The majority of the US, by a wide margin, is above 1,000 feet. Good use of a calculator can give you a basic idea of performance under very controlled conditions. In the real world, those numbers can be vastly different. There may be other factors that would give the edge back to the V10. If you know of any, I'm all ears.