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Old May 21, 2010 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
Maybe it is a little, but it weights 8,000 lb. Would really work the V10 out.
BTW this one holds 130 gallons of DIESEL

Way to go - catching that dodge emblem in the shot.
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 07:14 AM
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7.3l

better mpg (towing and unloaded)

repair costs not a factor because of the fuel savings (if you actually use your truck like a truck)

more torque (pulling power)

more longevity (99% of people that know trucks will tell you a 7.3 diesel is going to be a longer lasting engine)

V10
?????
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bucci
Way to go - catching that dodge emblem in the shot.
I wonder if it's a HEMI? My goodness...

Originally Posted by Seven-Point-Three
7.3l
repair costs not a factor because of the fuel savings (if you actually use your truck like a truck)
Seriously? Now, I myself would work on my own diesel, if I had one. I used to do all the maintenance and repair on the trucks I drove back when I was in my 20's (15 years ago), and spent plenty of time stinking of diesel fuel while doing it. Which is why I swore I'd never own one.

But have you ever had a dealer (or truck diesel mechanic) work on your 7.3?

Off warranty, that is?
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 08:01 AM
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It never ends! Everyone keeps reverting back to the 7.3L vs. V10 debate. Yes, we know it gets better MPGs. That's offset by the price premium in parts as well as purchase cost. So without that, let's go through some of these...

Originally Posted by Seven-Point-Three
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repair costs not a factor because of the fuel savings (if you actually use your truck like a truck)
Not a factor? Seriously? I've seen more threads on FTE of blown up 7.3Ls than V10s...why don't you ask how they feel about this particular subject!

Originally Posted by Seven-Point-Three
more torque (pulling power)
Are you sure? Need I refer to our comparison thread where Mike's V10 maintained speed with a 7.3L truck on the steepest part of the hill, then ran away from it once it was able to rev? That 7.3L in stock form did NOT handle the weight better than the V10. Tuned very well would have been a different story.

Originally Posted by Seven-Point-Three
more longevity (99% of people that know trucks will tell you a 7.3 diesel is going to be a longer lasting engine)
And as Clint and I discussed a few pages ago PLEASE provide data on this. Just because "people that know trucks" say so does NOT make it a fact.
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy001
Not a factor? Seriously? I've seen more threads on FTE of blown up 7.3Ls than V10s...why don't you ask how they feel about this particular subject!
Part of that has to do with the shear number of 7.3's versus V10s. At one point, I remember Ford saying only 14% of the market was V10.
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 08:24 AM
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Are you sure? Need I refer to our comparison thread where Mike's V10 maintained speed with a 7.3L truck on the steepest part of the hill, then ran away from it once it was able to rev? That 7.3L in stock form did NOT handle the weight better than the V10. Tuned very well would have been a different story.
i thought that that 7.3 had high gears in it. 3.73's right? oh course it would be slow on that steep of a grade. now have a v10 with 3.73's in the *** end and see how fast it goes up that hill

Not a factor? Seriously? I've seen more threads on FTE of blown up 7.3Ls than V10s...why don't you ask how they feel about this particular subject!
granted im still relitivly new on this forum but i havent seen one forum yet with a blown 7.3
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by mountaineer27
i thought that that 7.3 had high gears in it. 3.73's right? oh course it would be slow on that steep of a grade. now have a v10 with 3.73's in the *** end and see how fast it goes up that hill


Both trucks had the SAME rear axle.
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Old May 21, 2010 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
Both trucks had the SAME rear axle.
JL

really? when i brought this up about 30 or 40 pages ago know one had a clue? now we know they had the SAME rear axle?
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mountaineer27
really? when i brought this up about 30 or 40 pages ago know one had a clue? now we know they had the SAME rear axle?
Both of them had 3.73's. Johnny is right on that one. If you watch the video you will see that the problem with the 7.3 was more tranny related than anything. It shifted early, wouldn't downshift, Tom was jerking on the shifter trying to get it to shift manually and it still wouldn't, etc. My one(and last) automatic does that same thing all the time on steep grades. Trying to climb a hill in a gear you shouldn't be in will make it hard for any engine.


Originally Posted by Krewat
But have you ever had a dealer (or truck diesel mechanic) work on your 7.3?

Off warranty, that is?
217k miles and it has never been in the shop. It isn't a truck that has been pampered either. It is a work truck and it has been used like a work truck should be. The only work it has had done to it is a glow plug relay, glow plugs and one of my valve spring retainers had to be replaced because it had a crack in it.
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mountaineer27
granted im still relitivly new on this forum but i havent seen one forum yet with a blown 7.3
I have only seen one so far. That was some guy b*tching and moaning and calling the 7.3 every name he could think of because the POS only made it to 850k miles before it blew up.
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bucci
Way to go - catching that dodge emblem in the shot.
You know -Fords don't need that kind of backup.
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by phillips91
Both of them had 3.73's. Johnny is right on that one. If you watch the video you will see that the problem with the 7.3 was more tranny related than anything. It shifted early, wouldn't downshift, Tom was jerking on the shifter trying to get it to shift manually and it still wouldn't, etc. My one(and last) automatic does that same thing all the time on steep grades. Trying to climb a hill in a gear you shouldn't be in will make it hard for any engine.
Um, no.

The 7.3 was fine, the V10s tranny was doing that.
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
You know -Fords don't need that kind of backup.

What about a mercedes with a diesel?
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy001

Are you sure? Need I refer to our comparison thread where Mike's V10 maintained speed with a 7.3L truck on the steepest part of the hill, then ran away from it once it was able to rev? That 7.3L in stock form did NOT handle the weight better than the V10. Tuned very well would have been a different story.
EGTs were already highy, and the tune would have raised them.
How much more could you have gotten before you had to back out to keep it cool?
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 11:39 AM
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My 7.3l has never been to a repair shop and if at all possible I will do any repairs/mods it needs. My dad's 7.3l has been in for a new tranny and thats about it.

I know how that 7.3l did in the test and I don't buy it.

Blown up 7.3l's? Probablyonly ones you're ever going to find are ones that have lasted as long as they could be expected to and the guys who go for max power.
 
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